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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Ordering in toolbars
From:       James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj () acm ! org>
Date:       2006-08-20 21:54:17
Message-ID: 44E8DA09.20106 () acm ! org
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Daniel Ehn wrote:
> Hi there!
> 
> I'm a happy KDE user (well, one could say I'm addicted to it) since a few 
> years and hope I can be of help in many different ways. So my first post to 
> the KDE mailinglists is about ordering in toolbars. I have seen it in several 
> applications and with the recent discussions 
> (http://clarencedang.blogspot.com/2006/08/order-of-zoom-actions-vote-for-your.html) 
> I would like to make some clearifications.
> 
> The attachement is from KPDF and the original toolbar is the upper one. From a 
> usability point of view KDE need to more extensively use "stereotype"-rules:
> 
> 1. Increasing values on the right side. Same for ordering of buttons that are 
> manipulating values.
> 2. Increasing values above.
> 3. Increasing values clockwise.
> 4. Handles and buttons on the right side of the information they are changing.
> 
> Of course these rules are cultural. But maybe, if it's necessary, they could 
> be automated and controlled by KDE and not by individual applications?
> 
> Anyway, if you apply these rules on the KPDF toolbar you get the lower one. 
> It's as simple as that in my oppinion...

There are also issues when the ToolBar is used vertically rather than 
horizontal, the order of the zoom buttons is reversed:

	100%
	 <->
	 <+>

from what I think it should be.  That is, on most mechanical things, '+' 
is either Right or Up.

This seems like it wouldn't be an easy problem to solve.  The order of 
these three buttons needs to be reversed when on a vertical ToolBar.

The Box makes a small ToolBar much too wide.  If the Box knows if it is 
on a horizontal or vertical ToolBar, it could have the magnification as 
a pop-up when it was on a vertical ToolBar.
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