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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: User Resources
From:       Manuel Amador <rudd-o () amautacorp ! com>
Date:       2005-08-24 22:54:48
Message-ID: 1124924088.1488.61.camel () master ! amauta
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Maybe I am missing something, but

... isn't this kind of thing better served by either mounting the flash
drive to your homedir before logging in, or defining your home dir to be
the flash drive's mount point?

All in all, this is definitely not a problem you should be looking a
KDE-level solution for.

El mié, 24-08-2005 a las 10:08 -0400, Zak Jensen escribió:
> On 8/24/05, Laur Ivan <laur.ivan@corvil.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 24 August 2005 14:06, Zak Jensen wrote:
> > > As far as transferring settings, I like the idea. I have a KDE desktop &
> > > laptop at home, and the CS labs at my school run (pretty much excusively)
> > > KDE. It would be great to plug in a flash drive and have the desktop
> > > recognize my settings.
> > Imho this is some work for a "once-off" thing. If the network is configured
> > right, all you need to do is copy your settings and dump them into your
> > account at school once, which would fall into "backup my settings" category.
> 
> I find it rather interesting that on a mailing list about usability,
> half of the posts are about workarounds for problems, insted of
> finding a proper solution... It could be just my interpretation of it.
> Most posts seem to imply the attitude of "well you should have done it
> this way" rather than "ooh. I never thought of that", or something
> similar.
> 
> I visualized not a once-off behavior, but a dynamic change. So, when I
> plug my flash drive into my laptop, It will load those settings. When
> I take the disk to school and I plug it into a computer there, it
> would do the same thing. If I am lucky enough to use KDE at work, I
> plug it in there... etc etc.
> 
> > Ideally, I'd like to be able to have an usb mass storage i could pop in and
> > have all the essential bits (settings and e-mail for example) magically
> > appear in the new environment. of course there are issues (like screen
> > resolution, background image availability). Think you have a mp3 player
> > (ipod/zen/etc) and that's all you'd need to carry with you, instead of
> > laptops.. (<- short rant here)
> 
> I was thinking the same thing. Didn't think of email and what not...
> but its still eseentially the same idea.
> 
> > >  As far as importing users go, I don't think that's a good idea, mostly for
> > > security reasons.
> > This can be prevented. Several ways would be:
> > - gpg key or other authentication thing through kdm
> > - something along the lines "I've found J.D.'s home directory on a removable
> >   device. Would you like to use that instead?". This would still require a
> >   classic approach of "J.D. needs to have an account on the respective
> >   machine", but would allow your $HOME to be on your fav mp3 player, which
> >   you carry with you anyway :)
> 
> My idea was to look for .kde, and if you find it, ask them if they
> wanted to use those settings instead. As long as you have an account
> open, it shouldn't matter what username  you store on the flash drive.
> (I was also considering each disk to only store 1 account... may be a
> bad assumption, but it seems like this is a "personal" thing anyway.)
> 
> > Of course, bad things can happen if you lose your usb disk or mp3 player...
> > but the same way you have the original cds or mp3s in a "safe place", you
> > could have yout $HOME too...
> > 
> > > How about if a dialog pops up that says "I've detected
> > > the KDE configuration for user John Doe. Would you like to apply these
> > > settings?" or something similar. Eg. grab my desktop settings, but don't
> > > import a whole new account. :D
> > 
> > Still, the question is: how many times you would do such an operation?
> 
> I would imagine that you would do that every time you plugged in the
> flash disk. If you want to permanantly import the settings, you would
> use a "settings transfer wizard" or the aforementioned backup
> application.
> 
> > >  Could this be done with the media:/ ioslave?
> > 
> > Probably not, because this should ideally be done before KDE is launched. A
> > shell for "restore" should be easy enough to write... ;)
> 
> I was actually thinking of system:/ ;) Just re-read the commit digest,
> and realized I got it wrong ;)
> 
> I don't see any reason why it couldn't be done at both times. If you
> have the disk plugged in when you enter KDE, then it will ask at that
> moment. If you plug it in after KDE is running, then it will ask you
> when the next dialog pops up. At least, that's the behavior I would
> expect.
> 
> The way I am considering this functionality is it allows me to work in
> my own environment, which temporarially exists over-top/inside another
> person's session.
> 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Laur
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