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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: [another PATCH]: Kicker find as you type
From:       "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date:       2005-05-05 21:23:14
Message-ID: 200505051523.29811.aseigo () kde ! org
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On Thursday 05 May 2005 02:57, Michael Olbrich wrote:
> > well, it puts a widget into a menu. i'm not sure i see the immediate evil
> > of that, especially given the already rather unique nature of this menu.
>
> input widget == I know what I want.
> menu == I'm searching for what I want.

you'll find that most times when someone opens the kmenu they are looking for 
something specific, e.g. "a word processor"

and of course..... this input widget is a search item .. so. heh. either way.

> > > Why not copy "Run command" (what's the official name for that dialog?)
> >
> > because it doesn't address finding things in the kmenu.
>
> How does the place of a feature change its objective or value?

context. putting it in the minicli doesn't make the kmenu easier to use, which 
is sort of what the patch author is trying to do.

> I agree it it doesn't help finding things in the kmenu, but that's not
> because of its place but because of its concept.
> There are imho two reasons why people use the kmenu:
> 1) They don't want to use the keyboard (for whatever reason).
> 2) They don't know the name of what they are looking for.

3) those who are used to using it

i'm all for making minicli better. but that's a differnet topic to making the 
kmenu better.

we can ditch the kmenu, replace it with something that is painfully obvious to 
use, or somehow make what's there more accessible to people.

what we do elsewhere, e.g. in the minicli, doesn't really change that.

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Aaron J. Seigo
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