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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: [another PATCH]: Kicker find as you type
From:       Michael Olbrich <michael.olbrich () gmx ! net>
Date:       2005-05-05 20:57:02
Message-ID: 20050505205702.GB6910 () a168 ! apm ! etc ! tu-bs ! de
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On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 10:48:59AM -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Thursday 05 May 2005 04:59, Michael Olbrich wrote:
> > > why? besides the fact that we haven't done it before =)
> >
> > It mixes 2 different concepts.
> 
> well, it puts a widget into a menu. i'm not sure i see the immediate evil of 
> that, especially given the already rather unique nature of this menu.

input widget == I know what I want.
menu == I'm searching for what I want.

> > Why not copy "Run command" (what's the official name for that dialog?)
> 
> because it doesn't address finding things in the kmenu.

How does the place of a feature change its objective or value?
I agree it it doesn't help finding things in the kmenu, but that's not
because of its place but because of its concept.
There are imho two reasons why people use the kmenu:
1) They don't want to use the keyboard (for whatever reason).
2) They don't know the name of what they are looking for.

For people in category 1) this is obviously not a solution.
And what would people in category 2) type? They know more or less what
they are looking for, but not the exact name, so just matching the names
won't help.
What about adding synonyms to each menu entry and try to match those
too? Or any other method trying to guess what the user wants by
interpreting the input.

I still think that this is something related to "run command" (basically
a more intuitive extension) but that could be my "geek" perspective. I 
guess for an unexperienced user the association with the kmenu makes 
sense.

Michael

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