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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: kcontrol
From:       "Jamethiel Knorth" <jamethknorth () hotmail ! com>
Date:       2004-07-27 3:35:12
Message-ID: BAY7-F5voGdKO8FNpyL0001f955 () hotmail ! com
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>From: Segedunum <segedunum@actuaria.co.uk>
>Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:43:22 +0100
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>On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 07:29:40, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > if this a system administration tool, i'd agree with you, since then it
> > would be used by power users. seeing as it isn't, and seeing how 
>managing
> > multiple windows isn't something a lot of people are good at, i have to
> > disagree.
>
>I quite agree, but things aren't always that clear cut. If that was always 
>the
>case, everything on the desktop would be a single window :). Sometimes you
>have too many windows and dialogues open, other times there's just too much
>stuff in one window - it's a terrible balance. However, with care, things 
>can
>be managed in a scalable way I think.
>
> > the MacOS X panels are single-window for a reason =)
>
>Since I don't use Mac OS X (can't afford one for a start), perhaps some
>examples (screenshots?) would be nice.
>
> > and for power users who like individual windows, there is the Control 
>Panel
> > kicker menu.
>
>I really don't necessarily think that's just for power users. When you want 
>to
>get to one applet to configure something (with both KDE and Windows XP) 
>this
>is a great way of doing it without opening up the whole Control 
>Panel/Centre.
>It's mostly a case of clearly labelling both as the same thing so that it 
>is
>clear there are two options that lead to the same outcome. Giving people a
>good, clear, two option way of doing this is a good idea. Golden Rule #1: 
>Put
>the User in Control!

A good solution to this issue, I think, is having a context menu on entries 
in the control panel which allows for opening them in separate windows. It 
maintains that the application is single-window for those users who dislike 
having many windows or are confused by the constant switching of windows, 
yet still allows those who need separate windows to get them swiftly and 
easily. Also, it allow separate windows without forcing the creation and 
closing of many windows when looking for an option (however much I'd like 
for option-digging to be resolved, I expect that it won't be).

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