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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: kdemultimedia (setCheckedState)
From:       "Jamethiel Knorth" <jamethknorth () hotmail ! com>
Date:       2004-05-19 19:16:39
Message-ID: BAY7-F10uZaqT1DuRxQ0002b63e () hotmail ! com
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>From: Waldo Bastian <bastian@kde.org>
>Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 14:10:19 +0200
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>On Wed May 19 2004 13:44, David Faure wrote:
> > On Wednesday 19 May 2004 13:32, Clarence Dang wrote:
> > > On Wed, 19 May 2004 05:14 pm, David Faure wrote:
> > > > So there are two solutions: ensuring that options really look like
> > > > options (without a verb, like "Toolbar Foobar Visible"), or ensuring
> > > > that those menu items are actions, where the description represents 
>the
> > > > action - so it has to change if the action changes.
> > >
> > > I have to agree with Scott and Malte for the same reasons they gave.  
>Why
> > > wasn't the first solution chosen?
>
>I agree that for the toolbars this "Hide / Show" looks very untidy in the
>toolbars submenu. However I consider the "Hide menubar" / "Show menubar" 
>menu
>a big improvement over the version with a checkbox, likewise for the
>fullscreen action.
>
>Maybe that's because the menubar/fullscreen ones act more like 
>mode-switches,
>while in case of the toolbars it's more a selection process...
>
>With checkboxes in the toolbars submenu you get the status of all the 
>toolbars
>in one glance and, especially with many toolbars, it becomes easy to turn 
>one
>particular toolbar on and off because you can use the pattern of the other
>checks as reference.
>
>So I think there should be room for both.

But that messes with consistency in the system, and not for a particularly 
good reason. It is almost always worth trying to maintain consistency.

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