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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: [PATCH] Kicker applet context menu simplification
From:       "Jamethiel Knorth" <jamethknorth () hotmail ! com>
Date:       2004-04-20 20:03:17
Message-ID: BAY7-F1804yGiP5rrgJ00065eb5 () hotmail ! com
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>From: Maurizio Colucci <seguso.forever@tin.it>
>Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 03:13:18 +0200
>
>On Tuesday 20 April 2004 00:20, Jamethiel Knorth wrote:
> > >From: Maurizio Colucci <seguso.forever@tin.it>
> > >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:46:14 +0200
> > >
> > >You still have not supplied a reason not to.
> >
> > It interferes with the customizability of the panel. That has been my
> > reason all along. I guess I was not clear on that in earlier messages.
>
>No it doesn't. And the argument for customizability is not necessarily good
>anyway.

Customizability is one of the key factors of KDE. KDE is very customizable, 
and this is one of its strengths.

And, it does interfere with the customizability, as it requires a certain 
button/area to be there for the panel to be easily editable. This makes it a 
serious issue for me to remove a certain button: that's an issue for 
customizability.

> > > > Also, possibly you could supply a mockup of what this control area
> > > > would look like. Mayhaps you have an idea of how to actually 
>integrate
> > > > this to make it acceptable. I have doubts, although it would be 
>nice.
> > >
> > >The panel control area could be something like the blue area in the
> > >picture.
> >
> > Well, seeing that image, it is definitely a bad idea. That doesn't have
> > much room for customizability and doesn't fit itself to the theme at 
>all.
> > It depends on me having a defineable 'end' to my panel, when it could
> > easily be floating in the middle, and it's very much designed for me to
> > have a KMenu, which I may not.
>
>Jamethiel, all this paragraph is complete crap, as you probably know.

I asked for an example of how it would be interworked. You proposed one that 
just wasn't close to acceptable. How is this crap? Do you think I didn't 
mean that the Panel would be used in that manner? Well, here's a hint, I 
don't have a K-Menu button, and my panel was floating in the middle for a 
couple weeks last month. Your mockup was crap. If your mockup was not what 
you meant, then explain what you meant, but what you showed me was 
ridiculous.

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