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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: [PATCH] Kicker applet context menu simplification
From:       Maurizio Colucci <seguso.forever () tin ! it>
Date:       2004-04-17 7:55:42
Message-ID: 200404170955.43007.seguso.forever () tin ! it
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On Friday 16 April 2004 23:41, Jamethiel Knorth wrote:
> >From: Maurizio Colucci <seguso.forever@tin.it>
> >Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 22:33:13 +0200
> >
> >On Friday 16 April 2004 19:54, Davide Ferrari wrote:
> > > Well but, for example, the "remove" submenu in the Panel menu is
> >
> >absolutely
> >
> > > redundant. I remove the applet from the basic applet menu, it's the
> > > shortest and clearest way. The problem, as I said, is actually *adding*
> >
> >a
> >
> > > new applet. That's the problem.
> > > Has someone any ideas??
> >
> >I am not sure I understand the problem, but... couldn't we just keep the
> >patch
> >(i.e. remove the panel submenu) and just add button to the panel, which,
> >when
> >clicked, brings up the menu? So it is again reachable easily? the button
> >needn't be big, since it is seldom used.
>
> Then I can no longer configure my kicker to look how I want it to.
>
> I do not want another button. I shouldn't be there, I don't care how small
> it is.

> However, I need access to that panel submenu. That isn't an 
> acceptable solution.

It seems to me you are jumping to conclusions.

It is widely accepted that windows are divided into a "control area", where 
you find buttons to control the window (close, minimize...) and a "client 
area", which shows the content of the window. These areas are separate ant 
this is good, because their semantics is entirely different. Now, why 
shouldn't we extend this to the panel? Why shouldn't a panel have a control 
area too? This is an inconsistency, plain and simple, probably inherited from 
Microsoft. BTW, this would NOT prevent you from configuring the panel as you 
want to: just put an option to hide the control area... like you can do for 
ordinary windows.
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