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Subject:    Re: simpler UI for konqy
From:       "Max O'Shea" <maxo_lists () yahoo ! co ! uk>
Date:       2004-01-15 20:47:20
Message-ID: 200401152047.37175.maxo_lists () yahoo ! co ! uk
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I'm not really a developer, I just recently discovered KDE CVS, that's all. 
And I agree with you, the up button shouldn't be there for web browsing, 
although it should be possible to add it optionally. 

I think in terms of web browsing, Konqueror needs quite a big overhaul, 
especially with configuring. I think that when you are file browsing with 
Konqueror, when you click on Settings, Configure Konqueror, you should only 
get file browsing options, and when you're web browsing, only web browsing 
options. So Konqueror should have two 'modes' - web browsing, and file 
browsing, and it should behave like a completely different program depending 
what mode it's in. In plain english, if it's being used as a web browser, it 
should be a fully functional web browser, nothing more. And if it's a file 
manager, it should act as a file manager, and nothing more.


On Thursday 15 January 2004 19:18, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 January 2004 17:10, Max O'Shea wrote:
> > I actually find the up button quite useful in Konqueror, especially on
> > sites like the web CVS on KDE.
>
> You see you're a special class of users called "Developers"? You also
> probably know you can customize your toolbar, many users don't and even if
> they don't, there's also the "First Impression", that kde is too bloated
> because it have too many buttons on its toolbars.
>    Really, if you see a webbrowser that doesn't have a Up button you will
> not say "What the f*ck, this browser doesn't have a Up button?! What kind
> of browser is this?!", you'll probably search where to enable that button.
>
> > But I think there are some buttons that
> > aren't necessarily needed, eg. cut/copy/paste .
>
> I agree partially here. I rather use the X selection instead of Cut&Paste,
> but some users may use it, I really don't know and I can say nothing. Worth
> studying.
>    But removing them could improve the visual, so I'm for it. Mozilla
> doesn't have it and I never saw anybody claiming for it.
>
> > Konqueror should change the buttons depending on whether it's being used
> > for file management or web browsing.
>
> Automatically? This could cause the 'dancing toolbar' effect.
>
> > Another thing that needs to be changed is the home button when
> > web browsing - it shouldn't go to ~
>
> Sure.
>
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