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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: KControl brainstorming
From:       William Leese <william () leese ! nl>
Date:       2004-01-04 16:41:21
Message-ID: 3FF8506C.5070107 () leese ! nl
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Dominique Devriese wrote:
> William Leese writes:
> 
> 
>>Dominique Devriese wrote:
>>
>>>A very important followup from Kurt Pfeifle "I think one of the
>>>most important immediate things is to make a change that clearly
>>>differentiates between per-user settings and system admin settings.
>>>As I said elsewhere already, it should possibly even become split
>>>into two different beasts: KControl and KAdmin or some such.
> 
> 
>>So I hope that KControl or it's successor will remain the single
>>point of configuration it is today, and that for kiosk mode and
>>other lockdown features another app will be available.
> 
> I don't understand your reasoning.  On the one hand, you're saying
> everything that is configurable about a computer should be in
> KControl, and the next sentence you say "except for KIOSK and other
> lockdown features".

Let's put it differently: everything a home user would reasonably want 
to configure should be in KControl. Kiosk mode for example is one of 
those things a home user would rarely want to use, so it wouldn't belong 
in KControl and should go into KAdmin, for example.

> 
> How is something like, say, software installation, or UNIX user
> management different from KIOSK ? 

See above.

All home users will want to install software. Hardly any home users will 
want to configure Kiosk mode.

> I don't see how you can see
> something like UNIX user management as separate from KIOSK.  In my
> opinion, they should really become more integrated, as they both deal
> with the management of who can access your machine, and what rights he
> has on it.
> 

This is exactly what I'm worried about. You're completely right from a 
technical perspective, but a users (someone who isn't into computers) 
perspective is completely different. You can't tell someone who knows 
little about computers: "Well to change the time on your computer you 
have to go to KAdmin stead of KControl, because it requires root 
permission". The average response to this would be: "Huh, root? What's 
that? I just want to change the time!".

   - William


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