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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: [PATCH] kdesu dialog simplification
From:       Frans Englich <frans.englich () telia ! com>
Date:       2003-12-19 11:39:57
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On Friday 19 December 2003 12:11, William Leese wrote:
> Frans Englich wrote:
> > On Friday 19 December 2003 08:22, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> >>On Friday 19 December 2003 12:07, Frans Englich wrote:
> >>>  Patch below removes the line in the kdesu dialog which tells what
> >>>command it was feeded, ie. "Command: /usr/local/kde_stable/bin/kcmshell
> >>>clock --lang en_US".
> >>>
> >>>Reasons why it's bad to have that line:
> >>>* It is not informative.
> >>>* It is repulsive and puts the user in a fraightened mood - just like
> >>>ERROR codes tends to do.
> >>>* It makes a simple interface complex.
> >>>
> >>>Reasons to have it:
> >>>* Those with *@kde.org knows what it means.
> >>>
> >>>IMHO ofcourse :)
> >>>
> >>>What do you think?
> >>
> >>perhaps a "Details >>" button that shows/hides the command would be
> >> better. that way people can see it if they want or need to (think:
> >> helpdesk) without it being intrusively there all the time.
> >
> > No, I've changed my mind. It is not an acceptable compromise.
> >
> > If a user contacts a helpdesk it will be quite possible to figure out
> > what the user is doing anyway
>
> Ah, that's the tricky thing with users: they often aren't able to tell
> you what they did.
>
> A minor benefit is that Details button would also provide some insight
> into how some commandline tools work. Helpdesks love this kind of thing.

I will not build an interface to please a helpdesk. Nor should the UI be an 
education ground for the CLI. :)

> Why not remove 'Command' now and add a details button in the next point
> release.

I Second That! /me thinks it then will be forgotten then.


			Frans

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