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Subject:    The up button in web browsing mode (was clearer separation of
From:       "Carlos Leonhard Woelz" <carloswoelz () imap-mail ! com>
Date:       2003-12-17 16:45:29
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For further discussion here.

On 17 Dec 2003 05:33:27 -0000, "Carlos Woelz" <carloswoelz@imap-mail.com>
said:
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> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70506     
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> ------- Additional Comments From carloswoelz@imap-mail.com  2003-12-17
> 06:33 -------
> The up button is confusing for the average user, because in average it
> don't deliver meaningfull results, in special for more complex websites.
> This is the rationale for removing. To add a bit of data, I did some
> homework.
> 
> Notice that I think this button is a keeper in filemanagement mode, even
> when you open web pages. So still can quickly use konqueror for browsing
> html docs, etc.. in filemanagement mode.
> 
> ------
> 
> Small analysis of the state of hierarchical web sites.
> 
> Method: I tried first non geek sites: shopping.yahoo.com, amazon.com and
> aol.com. Clicked three times in random items. After that, I tried two
> sites I use a lot: newsforge.com and uol.com. Then I tied three random
> sites at google.
> 
> The result: 
> 
> Site: Yahoo Shopping
> Works: No
> http://search.shopping.yahoo.com/search/__yltc=s:92253310,d:14489115,sec:search,slk:button?p=.com&did=51
>  
> Site: Amazon
> Works: No
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html/ref=sc_fe_c_1_0/103-2514953-1839064?%5Fencoding=UTF8&node=1046284&no=1036592&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER
>  
> Site: InSyle magazine (found from aol)
> Works: No
> http://cgi.timeinc.net/cgi-bin/instyle/cg/clogin?zone=IN&cookie=&stat=CHA&url=http%3a//www.instyle.com/instyle/read/transformations/0,12403,557876,00.html
>  
> Site: Newsforge
> Work: No
> http://www.newsforge.com/software/03/12/16/0029234.shtml?tid=130&tid=150&tid=2&tid=82&tid=94
>  
> Site Universo on Line: (Brazilian newspapers/magazines site)
> Works: yes, for the Folha de São Paulo newspaper content! No for other
> magazines tested.
> http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/manchetes/ is the working one Yay!
> 
> Now using google as a tool:
> 
> Searched word: car
> Site: Car and Driver
> Works: No. You will always go back to the main page, it does not matter
> how deep you are.
> http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=33&article_id=7575
> 
> 
> Searched word: house
> Site: White House ;)
> Works? Yes.
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030730-4.html
> 
> 
> Searched word: fruit
> Site: Fruit of the Loom
> Works? Almost, but no. It has the right structure. I imagined it would
> work. But it did not. A page that looked right bat was a dead end was
> offered.
> http://www.fruit.com/static/brands/mensboys.cfm
> 
> Thats it.
> 
> Count time: 6 No, 1 Yes and No and 1 No. 
> Total 7 to 2.
-- 
  Carlos Leonhard Woelz
  carloswoelz@imap-mail.com

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