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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: ideas for easier file handling/navigating/opening
From:       Alexander Neundorf <neundorf () kde ! org>
Date:       2003-11-20 17:42:28
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On Wednesday 19 November 2003 23:15, Leo Savernik wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 19. November 2003 21:34 schrieb Alexander Neundorf:
> [...]
>
> > Navigating to the files and viewing them with konqy is very easy. If you
> > want to edit them it gets slightly more complicated:
> > you can open you favourite app, open the file selector, navigate to the
> > file (probably using the mouse), and open finally open the file.
> > Or you go to the file using konqy, rmb and "open with" it from there.
>
> [...]
>
> > So maybe there there could be a simpler way to open files for editing.
>
> Clicking on the file with the middle mouse button opens it r/w in the
> associated app. So you have total control over what representation you'd
> like to get, lmb: embedded readonly part, mmb: standalone readwrite
> application. I can't imagine a simpler way.

Ok, I didn't know this special feature.

But still. My point is more the open-file dialog in applications.
There are several apps which provide additionally to the normal file dialog 
their own file-loading widgets, e.g. kuickshow, kate, kdevelop, they all 
provide a non-modal always open directory browser.
This means a normal file dialog feels a bit cumbersome to some. Maybe already 
non-modal file dialogs would feel better.
And the file dialog has so many features that is already almost a file manager 
(like konqy).

I don't know exactly how, but there must be a way to make the file-dialog less 
"easier". Why else would apps feature their own browsing functions ?

E.g. in kfte when pressing the "load file" shortcut, the document view is 
hidden and the main window shows the file browser (more or less like tabbed 
MDI, with one tab being the file browser). Then you select the file and it is 
opened in a new tab.

Or how about a desktop-global file dialog, something like a tabbed konqy 
sliding out of the panel, and each app, which calls getOpenFileName() adds a 
new tab to this file dialog/konqy which then becomes visible. Switching to 
another app should also switch the active tab in this dialog.
It could provide more or less all actions konqy does, but left-clicking a file 
wouldn't show it, but send it to the application.

Just some ideas...

Basically the missing very-easy-browsing functionality is more or less the 
main reason why I still didn't switch to kdevelop for instance.

Bye
Alex
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