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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: KDE3 defaults
From:       Sander Devrieze <s.devrieze () pandora ! be>
Date:       2003-08-18 9:25:19
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Op zondag 17 augustus 2003 01:09, schreef William Leese:
> Sander Devrieze wrote:
> >You can store a location in a hyperlink...or in other words: you can store
> > the relation between 2 documents in a hyperlink... :p
>
> I'm not convinced. A relation is different from a container.

What I like to say is that there *is* some relation between hyperlinks and 
local files and that because of this some consistency in showing them should 
exist.

<snip>
> >>I realize the taskbar shows
> >>all windows by default, but I'm just afraid users will lose their
> >>windows :)
> >
> >Maybe they will lose them for some time but after they recognises where
> > they are, they will like the virtual desktop feature.
>
> Yah, but if they're only going to use 2 virtual desktops, they'll be
> able to find their lost windows easier. Hypothetically ofcourse.

Why? The task bar destroy this problem for 99,9% by showing the windows of all 
desktops: it isn't harder to use with 1,2,3,4 or even 5,000,000 virtual 
desktops.

<snip>
> This won't happen. If someone is savy enough to make use of the virtual
> desktop feature right away and finds 2 limited, he/she will be savy
> enough to look in kcontrol.

But the avarage user will like default 4 virutal desktops. Maybe their are 
situations where people only need 2 desktops but we shouldn't change the 
default settings for this group by making it harder for most people. If some 
distributions have a target market which needs only 2 virtual desktops then 
they can change it by themself.

> What I'm saying is that new users will first
> need to discover virtual desktops and then get used to them, by that
> time the user should know about kcontrol.

I know what you say but it isn't true in this situation. What is harder to 
understand if you explain people the function of the 4 virtual desktops or 
when you explain it for 2 desktops? I think that 99,999% of the people will 
understand the function of 4 virual desktops as good as the function of only 
2 virual desktops.

<snip>
> >Correction:
> >[static items][dynamically items]
> >and now your turn ;)
>
> The pager is dynamic.

It's also static because not much change in it.

> Because of it's large size I see the taskbar as
> being somewhat of a seperator.

And I see the pager as a separator because it contrasts with the other items 
in kicker what makes it good vissible.

> 'dynamic' vs static doesn't play a role
> here, because systray and the clock aren't really dynamic in a way that
> the user needs to worry about.

clock: time and date change.
systray: systray icons apear and dissapear when the user start/stop 
applications. You also have some applications which displays dynamic 
information in their systray icon (e.g. Psi which displays a notification 
when you receive a message).

- --
Mvg, Sander Devrieze.
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