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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: KMenuEdit vs. direct manipulation [was: Re: RMB - once again]
From:       Sébastien_Laoût <sebastien.laout () tuxfamily ! org>
Date:       2003-08-16 14:41:29
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Le sam 16/08/2003 à 00:02, Troels Tolstrup a écrit :
> On Friday 15 August 2003 22:16, Sander Devrieze wrote:
> > I agree with this, but IMO it's much better to show a popup dialog when
> > the user tries to move an item in the menu (maybe accidentially!). In
> > this popup people can read that they have to use the menueditor for this
> > (eventually with a button to start an interactive tutorial which show how
> > to do this).
IMO, we MUST AVOID popup dialogs in KDE : it's what I hate in Windows
(we are invaded by those things : "Do you want to connect you to
internet ?", "Do you want to pay your antivirus ?", etc...).

And I also like the idea mentionned in another mail : popup a MENU where
we can "Move here / Copy here / Link here // Cancel", it's a good
compromise : if user d'n'd by accident, he get a feedback BEFORE
rearanging icons (which can be annoying to rearange icons as before),
most users are familied with this menu and will recognize they have been
d'n'd-ed a thing (even if they don't know *which thing*) and will
immediatly click on Cancel to don't care of that little accident.
With that, is d'n'd in menus must be disabled ? It can be but it now can
enabled : no real danger...

> Then why not ask if they want to move the menu item? This would allow 
> "inline" menu rearranging, without making you rearrange things by accident. 
> (i personally have hated the menu editor from the first time i saw it, and 
> i still find it silly that you actually need to launch a program to 
> rearrange the menu)

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