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Subject:    Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?TOM
From:       Roger Larsson <roger.larsson () skelleftea ! mail ! telia ! com>
Date:       2003-05-21 22:09:42
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On onsdag 21 maj 2003 21:58, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> hi all...
>
> remember waaaaaaay back, when the earth was green and we were discussing a
> task oriented menu (aka TOM) concept? and how i whacked some stuff together
> and put it up on a webpage for people to look at? well... it's in CVS
> now... kdebase/kicker/menuext/tom
>
> please, check it out and whine, complain, suggest and patch away... there
> are one or two others who may or may not be helping write code (no patches
> yet, just lots of interest... so... we'll see =)
>
> note that it is still in development and not everything is completed. read
> the README for details of what the aims are (in case you forgot or weren't
> around during the original discussions) and what is left to be done. there
> is also a "Debate List" section in the README that lists some items that
> i'm not quite sure about yet.

Debate List:
* task entry format
	Application name has to be a part.
		For support reasons if for no other reason. Think international support.
		Try to describe or deduce what menu item to hit without the app. name
		(especially since the icon depends on the current theme)
* Run A Command...
	Why is it needed on the head level anyway? Alt-F2 is much quicker.
	My suggestion is to place it on a sub menu. Then ask yourself - do we want
	text entry in a sub menu? (I think the answer is NO...)

Thinks to add to the Debate List
* Keyboard shortcut should be visible in some way.
* Can every task be described with only one short line?
Join those two with:
* Can we use tooltips for menu items? Example:

"Run A Command...	Alt-F2
 Starts any executable program, can also open an URL.
 Please try with http://www.kde.org or gg:KDE"

(read from the application.desktop?
 the shortcut information needs to be generated, not done in window menu - try 
to redefine Alt-F4, or to define another one)

Anyway - when we know what information to present for the user,
the format of the taskgroup might have become an easy pick.
	
>
> i REALLY want this to be a highly polished piece for 3.2, so the more
> constructive criticism (and, goddess willing, patches ;) i can get the
> better...
>

Since you ask for it, from the file TASKGROUPS:
"[Task2]
Name=VNC
DesktopFile=Internet/keystone.desktop"

VNC  a task? It sounds more like a disease :-)

/RogerL
-- 
Roger Larsson
Skellefteċ
Sweden
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