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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: kppp
From:       Philippe Fremy <phil () freehackers ! org>
Date:       2003-04-30 8:26:59
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On Tuesday 29 April 2003 17:50, Poletti Don wrote:
> Ok I'm replying to my own e-mail.
>
> Actually the default behavior is not to have a system tray icon but after
> connection
> a window appears which can be minimized. So everything can be down
> through the
> window but it takes up space on the taskbar.
>
> Any idea on which is a better default behavior. Using a window or a
> system try icon.
>

I think a system tray icon is better. Basically, I see the following 
scenario of usage of kppp:

- you are used to it, it works. So you just want to connect and disconnect. 
In that case, a window is annoying, you just want a system tray.

- this is the first time you use it, so you must set-up preferences 
(login/password). Then you want to follow what is going on to see if it is 
working. So you appreciate a window. If everything works fine, you then 
want it minimised because you have had all the information you need.

- something is not working fine. Then you want to see the detail window.

So I think the good way to manage this is:

- when kppp is launched from the menu, show it as a dialog where one can set 
up its prefreences

- when the connection is established minimize it. Maybe a checkbox "minimise 
once connected" could be useful but I am not convinced.

- when kppp is restarted by the session, have it simply in the system tray.

- the actions you want to have in the right mouse button menu in the system 
tray are:
	. connect (when disconnected, nothing if connected)
	. disconnect (when connected, nothing if disconnected)
	. show window

That is two actions. I suggest to have the connect/disconnect at the bottom 
so that it is the easiest accessible. One can argue however that somebody 
may click on it by mistake so that you could prefer to have 'show window' 
as the bottom entry, so that an 'click by error' has no consequences.

The show window action is also triggered when one double click on the system 
tray.

Does this sound right to you ? It has been a while since I have used kppp 
but I still remember that the window was a bit annoying.

Does this compare fairly with gnome ppp ?

	regards,

	Philippe




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