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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: embedded viewer vs external program
From:       "Ed Zaborowski" <kde-usability () thezees ! homelinux ! net>
Date:       2003-02-27 17:08:30
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<opinion>
    I personally abhore items opening in konqueror when I am browsing.
</opinion>

<suggestion>
    I believe that we can somewhat get a middle ground here. We are trying
to get konqueror to display information. Audio (ogg, mp3, etc) files aren't
really visual information. As such I think it would be more appropriate to
either:
        a) Open the audio item in the default application.
        b) Preview the item in konqueror but in a method differently than
what is currently being done.

Let me explain my position. Currently, previewing an audio item in konqueror
takes over the entire window that you were browsing files in. If we were to
change it so that the embedded player were to display in a smaller part of
the windows, somewhat like, Luke Chatburn has drafted up for the messages
with the subject action area in konqueror. The player would be embedded into
a smaller part of the browser window, allowing the user to still browse.
This solution obviously wouldn't work as well for other types of
information, i.e. visual information, text files, graphics, etc.
</suggestion>

<general>
    I think part of the problem is that people do open konqueror in file
manager mode, to manage files, and do expect that the pertinent application,
when opening the file will launch. I also believe that opening the file in
an embedded view changes the nature of what many people wanted to originally
accomplish. When I  put <favorite image viewer here> on my computer, I
expect it to open up my image files.
</general>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)" <amadorm@usm.edu.ec>
To: <kde-usability@mail.kde.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: embedded viewer vs external program


> >
> >
> >What might help though if konqueror in general had a stronger
differentation
> >between file-manager mode and web-browser, maybe it would make sense to
> >default to "open" in file-manager mode and to default to "view" in
> >web-browsing mode.
> >
> >At the moment I doubt the different modes are visualized clearly enough
for
> >that though.
> >
> Perhaps it's this.  But if you ask me, if I'm web browsing and I click
> on an MP3 file, i still want an external player to open it.  Ditto for
> images.  Even web sites have kludges via javascript to pop up "Image
> windows".  If web browsers opened a new window for different media
> types, this wouldn't be bad.  Although I'm probably on the minority
> group here.
>
> But, at least on the MP3 file case, who can raise a hand and say they'd
> like to stop their web browsing because a Kaboodle window appeared when
> you clicked on a stream link?
>
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Waldo
> >
> >
>
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