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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Putting my money where my mouth is
From:       "Luke Chatburn" <luke () linuxcomment ! com>
Date:       2003-02-22 10:31:56
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Hi Mosfet...

I was the one posting on PCLinuxOnline...

I ran up a prototype .ui, Aaron and I bounced it back and forth a bit, with
some changes being thought of, but we didn't get to the stage of either
deciding to do it or junk it.

Effectively, the design unifies Style, Window Decorations and Colors under
one 'Style' control module, with Themes spun off to a separate application,
due to limited use (perhaps a good chance to re-imagine what a theme manager
should be?).

The screeny for the design is here:
http://www.silklantern.com/snapshot5.jpg

As I said, we agreed that Themes should be spun off, that Colors should be
integrated into the Style tab, and effects should move to being the second
tab, instead of a dialog box. The general idea is that the preview at the
bottom be a preview of an entire window (only widgets are shown atm, because
I just stole a .ui file from webcvs!) effectively, with the window, widget
and colour controls directly above it, so you can craft the look of your
windows in one single tab. It has space issues, but it could be pretty cool.

The trouble is, I have no clue how to code control modules :) I'm sure I
could read through a few and work it out, but then that would leave me stuck
trying to figure out how to change the styles and colours on the preview
window. No idea how KDE does this....

Of course, Mosfet, you wrote the stuff to start with, so a few tips or some
help would be great :)

-Luke

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo@olympusproject.org>
To: <kde-usability@mail.kde.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: Putting my money where my mouth is


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> On Friday 21 February 2003 04:15, Mosfet wrote:
> > like to try reorganizing. I'll hopefully be getting a new much faster
> > computer next week then upgrading to CVS HEAD. Once that is done I'd
like
>
> cool =)
>
> > KControl is the first obvious target.
>
> indeed... next month i want to start working on a new interface to
kcontrol...
> something along the lines of what pupeno wrote about, actually... i want
to
> try out the following strategy:
>
>  o get rid of the tree view (have it optionally available for those
addicted
> to trees, but off by default)
>
>  o replace it with the help sidebar, except make it pretty (probably
similar
> in style to the konqueror/kmail/kcontrol intro screens) and add  a
"related
> items" area, that contains links to related control panels. e.g. if you
are
> in configuring the window docorations this might contain links to window
> behaviour, colour schemes and widget styles
>
>  o simplify and compact the search tab into a smaller interface that can
be
> accessed easily from the help sidebar
>
> i'm still not 100% sure what i'd like to see in the main area for
navigating
> between the different panels. perhaps something a bit like MacOS X's
> organization but a bit more scalable (e.g. easier to move up and down
through
> multiple levels of groups). i'd also like to make this area able to
include
> icons that launch non-KDE control panels.
>
> your ideas may be (probably are;) far different, but that's cool.. i'd
love to
> hear/see what you have up your sleeves...
>
> > both be moving around the modules themselves to more logical locations,
>
> as neil pointed out, this probably isn't in the cards for 3.2/3.3...
>
> > renaming some of them,
>
> note: we can rename them, but have to keep the .desktop file names the
same
> for backwards compatibility apparently..
>
> > and moving some options off to an "Advanced" button
> > within the dialogs.
>
> yes, a lot of the dialogs really need reworks as they are showing their
age as
> the number of options have piled up over the years...
>
> - --
> Aaron J. Seigo
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