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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: KFileDialog take 2
From:       Troels Tolstrup <troels () tolstrup ! org>
Date:       2002-06-30 20:42:07
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On Sunday 30 June 2002 20:04, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On the sidebar, i think the temporary files should either be
> > removed, or point to a directory only used for this.
>
> that does point to a directory only used for temporary files.  if you
> want a place to put something temporarily and out of your usual way,
> that is a place to do so. that is also (AFAIK) where you'll find temp
> files used by KDE apps.

Which is my problem with it, i dont think the users tmp files and the 
systems tmp files should be put in the same place. As i mentioned, my 
temp dir already contains 105 files, and that is all stuff that kde has 
generated. I dont think it is very helpful to point a user to that 
directory. I also dont think it should use /tmp as on some systems this 
is nuked at reboot, which the user might not know, and not all 
temporary files are THAT temporary :)

Right now the desktop is in the homedir, and trash is in the desktop 
dir. I cant see why there couldnt be a temp folder in the homedir as 
well. As i said before, i dont really think a normal user should ever 
have to leave their homedir and i dont think any of the kde programs 
should make them do this.

Another argument is if they backup their entire home directory and later 
restore it. If you use the temporary files button i dont think it is 
obvious to the user they he/she is not saving to their homedir 
somewhere, and the temporary files will then not be in that backup. The 
desktop does it, the documents does it (why there is a documents option 
that just points at ~ i dont know), home of course does it, and it 
should be easy to guess that floppy or network doesnt. Temporary files 
doesnt, and you actually need to read the location bar to figure that 
out. That also makes it hard for them to later locate the files with 
konqueror since IIRC there is no "temporary files" shortcut there. I 
generally dont think it is easy enough to find the locations from the 
sidebar in konqueror which i think is a problem. Think: "i just saved a 
file using a location from the sidebar, and now i would like to find 
the file with konqueror" 

> > Finally, am i the only one who get a scrollbar on the sidebar? (a
> > horizontal one that is) I can see everything without scrolling so i
> > dont know why it is there.
>
> don't see it here.

Strange, i get it no matter which font size, font, or style im using. 
The bar does vary in size depending on my fontsize though.

Mvh
Troels
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