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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: "Baloon" help
From:       Troels Tolstrup <troels () tolstrup ! org>
Date:       2002-06-11 2:06:18
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On Monday 10 June 2002 23:08, Tim Jansen wrote:
> On Monday 10 June 2002 23:33, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > well, too late.. it's already in kdeui, which means it needs to
> > stay source and binary compat throughout kde3 ...
>
> It appeared after 3.0 and only two apps seem to use it, so breaking
> source or binary compatibility is not an issue. But KPassivePopup's
> API is quite nice and should be able to handle the proposed new GUI
> with a few small enhancements.
>
> bye...

I just looked at the api docs and yes, it does look nice.

And i think it will be quite easy to change this into what i envisioned, 
without changing the api too. Well, not true, it would add more 
constructors and maybe a few more methods, but the current ones 
shouldnt change.

Extra things that should be added IMO is support for the read more link 
or help icon or whatever it will be. As well as a close button if 
people think that is a good idea, and pointing at the icon/widget that 
opened it.

Im quite happy about this as it makes things a lot easier for me, or 
whoever else, is going to work on it, compared to what i first thought.

And i think maybe i got another idea to its behaviour:

It would look something like #7 on
www.tolstrup.org/kde/baloon.html

To close it use the X button or wait n seconds, where a default could be 
7.

To disable it right click and choose dont show this baloon* again. I 
dont know how this should be implemented yet, possibly for the program 
that created the baloon to provide a slot in order to disable it if 
they will let it be disabled?

*) or whatever these things should be presented as to the user. I think 
baloon sounds lame and people might think it is a tooltip. It could be 
a dialog, but yet it isnt really a dialog. It could be a tooltip, but 
it is different in concept to tooltips. Argh, what should the darn 
things be called? =)

Show a help link at the bottom right. I think this should show a small 
dialog with help about using the popups. (as in explaining how to close 
and how to disable them as well as providing hints on how to enable it 
again later)

Show a more info link at the bottom left. This would be optional way for 
the program to supply a list of help documents that might be useful. I 
think it should pop up a dialog as well. I envision it looking slightly 
like the help dialog i already put up, except no disable checkbox and 
possibly no popup help.

A different approach could be to not show a more info dialog, but 
instead a popup menu with the items in it. Or even more alternative, 
let the program itself create the dialog to be shown. Or possibly both 
provide a standard dialog as well as let the program make its own.

Mvh
Troels

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