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List:       kde-solaris
Subject:    Re: [kde-solaris] Solaris packages
From:       Thomas Leitner <tom () radar ! tu-graz ! ac ! at>
Date:       2001-09-01 7:32:01
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> My boyfriend has 2 alphas and what I understood from his experiences,  kde
> basically runs, but here are a lot of compiler problems on the alpha - the
> compilers not always produce correct code.
>
I know that I'm a little bit late with answering that but I cannot leave
this uncommented: KDE 2.2 as well as KOffice 1.1 compile perfectly well on
Alphas and are completely 64-bit clean. I am compiling and using KDE 2.2
on the Tru64 (fully 64-bit) operating system and I'm compiling it with
Compaq C++ a fully ISO C++ compliant compiler. I'm also producing binary
packages which are used by many people around the globe.

Additionally Trolltech folks have access to one of our development alphas
so that they can compile new QT releases with both, gcc 2.95.3 and Compaq
C++ prior to a new QT release.

So yes, KDE in it's current form is 64-bit clean.

As for Solaris: Because Solaris in 64-bit mode still allows to execute
32-bit programs, I do not see any real advantage in compiling KDE in
64-bit mode there.

BTW, this is a small criticism about your Solaris packages: I don't think
that it's good to have the KDE binaries depend on some external additional
libraries which people need to figure out where to get and how to compile
etc. etc. I think that KDE for *any* platform should be easily installable
and basically self-contained, meaning: I want to take a *freshly*
installed Solaris box, download KDE binaries, install them with a simple
script (which comes with the binaries) and have KDE running in 5 Minutes
without any additional hassels of installing other libs. etc. etc. This
can be done easily by including the required libraries in $prefix/lib
where KDE 2 installs all of its libraries anyway. Sure, you're wasting a
little bit of disk space because some people might already have these
libraries, but this is neglectable, IMHO.

I think if KDE on Solaris wants to have a broader user base (which it
should have, BTW because it's great) the installation needs to be much
easier. Many Sysadmins don't have the time for a lengthy installation and
for thoroughly reading README files.

The KDE2 packages available from ftp.patriotsoft.com come very close to
this. Also I've produced my Tru64 packages according to these rules and
they are very successful. You can just install them on a virgin Tru64
Alpha and have KDE up and running within 5 minutes.

Just my Euro 0.02.

Tom
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