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List:       kde-release-team
Subject:    Re: Calling off Beta1
From:       Albert Astals Cid <aacid () kde ! org>
Date:       2012-05-29 21:17:01
Message-ID: 4333674.9DkdWM6dnD () xps
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El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 23:08:50, Adrian Schr=F6ter va escriu=
re:
> Am Dienstag, 29. Mai 2012, 22:35:23 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
> > On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > > I'm not.  You've known about this since Saturday.  AFAIK didn't consu=
lt
> > > packagers on impacts.  Made a late announcement (if you were going to=
 do
> > > this,  waiting three days did't help).  Then you give a very pointed
> > > response to anyone who questions your decisions.
> > =

> > +1
> > =

> > Saturday would have been in time to cancel the release. We started
> > importing it on Monday. Canceling the release after the distros already
> > started packaging it is a complete no go.
> > =

> > > Fine.  You're the release dude, so decide, but there are ways to deal
> > > with
> > > it  that are much less abrasive than this.  I read your mail on Satur=
day
> > > and thought it meant "go package the soprano snapshot - you'll need
> > > it".  It never even occurred to me that the release would be canceled.
> > =

> > Same here (or actually I'd have hoped Albert would try to coax the Sopr=
ano
> > maintainers into doing a release, which would have been the proper way =
out
> > of this crisis). It isn't even the first time this occurred, and
> > canceling the beta release wasn't ever even for dicussion in the past,
> > nor did the mail on Saturday give any hint that this might possibly
> > happen this time.
> =

> Maybe just the wording is a bit wrong. There will be always a first beta.
> Even though maybe not in time, but it absolute makes no sense to release a
> Beta 2 as first step ;)
> =

> I think the beta 1 is still waiting for a soprano release.
> =

> So for the future KDE should either create the official soprano releases =
as
> well or it should require just the latest official one before. That means
> developers of kdelibs should not depend on not yet released soprano
> releases ...

Exactly, that's why we have a "Dependency Freeze" one whole week before the =

Beta 1 release in our schedule =

http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Release_Schedule because we need=
 to =

have the release based on existing releases of our dependencies.

It is just not easy to enforce people to follow freezes.

Cheers,
  Albert
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