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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Default KDE to PulseAudio (kwhiskerz)
   2. Re: Default KDE to PulseAudio (Neal Becker)
   3. Re: Default KDE to PulseAudio (Rex Dieter)
   4. Jewish Holidays Plugin in Korginizer (Eli Wapniarski)
   5. Re: Jewish Holidays Plugin in Korginizer (Jos? Matos)
   6. Re: Jewish Holidays Plugin in Korginizer (Eli Wapniarski)
   7. Re: Jewish Holidays Plugin in Korginizer (Eli Wapniarski)

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On Wednesday September 17, 2008 9:50:27 am Mark Bidewell wrote:
> The config dialog shows only gstreamer. Moving PulseAudio to the top of
> the HW list seems to work great. Is Xine the recommended backend?
<br><br>
No matter what position, the result is always a little rectangle with the 
message that phonon doesn't work and it defaults back to SoundBlaster. Then 
the application must be restarted.
<br><br>
I am using phonon-xine.
<br><br>
On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Mark Bidewell wrote:
> I find this whole setup bewildering.
<br><br>
Pulseaudio is a mess. It just doesn't work and has only complicated things 
that worked excellently up until now. Hopefully it will work, finally, in F10.

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From: Neal Becker <ndbecker2@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:18:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Default KDE to PulseAudio
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On Wednesday 17 September 2008, kwhiskerz wrote:
> On Wednesday September 17, 2008 9:50:27 am Mark Bidewell wrote:
> > The config dialog shows only gstreamer. Moving PulseAudio to the top of
> > the HW list seems to work great. Is Xine the recommended backend?
>
> <br><br>
> No matter what position, the result is always a little rectangle with the
> message that phonon doesn't work and it defaults back to SoundBlaster. Then
> the application must be restarted.
> <br><br>
> I am using phonon-xine.
> <br><br>
>
> On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Mark Bidewell wrote:
> > I find this whole setup bewildering.
>
> <br><br>
> Pulseaudio is a mess. It just doesn't work and has only complicated things
> that worked excellently up until now. Hopefully it will work, finally, in
> F10.


How about this?  Talk about embarrassment of riches.  I am the proud owner of 
_3_ volume controls - and they are all effectively connected in series.  Each 
app has it's control, then Pulse has it's volume control, and kmix has it's 
volume control.  Turn any one down (or mute it) and no sound.




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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:47:40 -0500
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Default KDE to PulseAudio
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Neal Becker wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>> When I use KDE, the actual HW is the default sound device which causes
>> immediate failure messages.  Shouldn't KDE default to PulseAudio for its
>> sound device?
>>
>> Mark Bidewell
> 
> I find this whole setup bewildering.  But don't mind me, I'm just a EE with 30 
> years experience.

It turns out that while we tested/configured phonon-xine-backend to 
"just work", phonon-gstreamer-backend still has issues (and requires 
manual tweaking).  Problem being that the upgrade process from kde-4.0 
to kde-4.1 ends up making the latter (-gstreamer) the default backend, 
which is causing some head-aches.

We've issued a fast-track update to address this:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/phonon-4.2.0-5.fc9

-- Rex

p.s.  nitty-gritty details involve yum (recently?) changing its 
depsolving/preferred updates method/algorithm to no longer prefer the 
matching package with the shortest name, ie -xine should beat -gstreamer.



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Hi

Could somebody please check to see if they can see Jewish Holidays after 
enabling the plugin in Korginizer, before I make a bug report to KDE.

Thanks

Eli

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On Friday 19 September 2008 07:08:05 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> Hi
>
> Could somebody please check to see if they can see Jewish Holidays after
> enabling the plugin in Korginizer, before I make a bug report to KDE.

With kdepim 4.1.1 I can not see them.

> Thanks
>
> Eli

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On Friday, 19 בSeptember 2008 11:21:06 José Matos wrote:
> On Friday 19 September 2008 07:08:05 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Could somebody please check to see if they can see Jewish Holidays after
> > enabling the plugin in Korginizer, before I make a bug report to KDE.
>
> With kdepim 4.1.1 I can not see them.
>
Thanks Jose
 
Eli

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On Friday, 19 בSeptember 2008 11:21:06 José Matos wrote:
> On Friday 19 September 2008 07:08:05 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Could somebody please check to see if they can see Jewish Holidays after
> > enabling the plugin in Korginizer, before I make a bug report to KDE.
>
> With kdepim 4.1.1 I can not see them.
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > Eli
>
Thanks again Jose
 
And for your tracking pleasure.
 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171312
 
Eli

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