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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns (Arthur Pemberton)
   2. Re: FYI: latest version of kdeutils seems to	conflict with
      many other packages (Claude Jones)
   3. Re: KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns (Anne Wilson)
   4. Default KDE to PulseAudio (Mark Bidewell)
   5. Re: Default KDE to PulseAudio (Rex Dieter)
   6. Re: Default KDE to PulseAudio (Neal Becker)
   7. Re: Default KDE to PulseAudio (Mark Bidewell)
   8. Re: Default KDE to PulseAudio (Rex Dieter)

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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 4.1.1 Misc concerns
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2008/9/14 Anne Wilson <cannewilson@googlemail.com>:
> On Sunday 14 September 2008 17:49:54 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> 2008/9/14 John5342 <john5342@googlemail.com>:
>> >>I don't use Dolphin. I looked through Konquror, didn't find a similar
>> >>option. Any idea if it is there for sure and that I just missed it?
>> >
>> > Don't know if its true in this case but a lot of settings in dolphin also
>> > effect konqueror. Have already found at least one other setting (the
>> > right click "copy to" and "move to" menus) that dont appear to have an
>> > option in konqueror but setting them in dolphin also affects konqueror
>> > (they probably share most settings).
>>
>> Quite true. After closing and reopening Konqueror, the change had
>> taken effect in it as well.
>>
> On my Mandriva laptop the first, Behavior page of Konq's settings, there's an
> option to rename in-line.


Just double checked, the only behaviour page I have is under 'Web
Browser' in the settings tree


-- 
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( www.pembo13.com )




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On Sun September 14 2008 4:46:31 pm Rex Dieter wrote:
> You need kdeutils-4.1.1-1.fc9.1 from kde-redhat/unstable too, to avoid
> conflicts.
>
interesting...
I had thought you'd suggested in a post in the recent past, in reply to 
someone about keeping the kde-redhat repos enabled vs. using updates-testing 
from fedora, that it was fine to just use updates-testing -- at least, that's 
what I understood. So, I had turned off the kde-redhat repos within the past 
two months
When I turned it back on today, the above package did not superceed the 
offending one from updates-testing, so, when I ran smart, it still wanted to 
use the kdeutils-4.1.1-1.fc9 from updates-testing to update; but, smart does 
list the various options when they are available and the above named package 
was listed, and when I chose the kdeutils-4.1.1-1.fc9.1 from kde-redhat 
unstable, it happily used it; what seems odd is that after installing it, 
smart showed me as completely up to date...
There seems to be something anomalous there...
as always, thanks for your work and prompt responses
-- 
Claude Jones
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On Sunday 14 September 2008 23:40:51 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> 2008/9/14 Anne Wilson <cannewilson@googlemail.com>:
> > On Sunday 14 September 2008 17:49:54 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> >> 2008/9/14 John5342 <john5342@googlemail.com>:
> >> >>I don't use Dolphin. I looked through Konquror, didn't find a similar
> >> >>option. Any idea if it is there for sure and that I just missed it?
> >> >
> >> > Don't know if its true in this case but a lot of settings in dolphin
> >> > also effect konqueror. Have already found at least one other setting
> >> > (the right click "copy to" and "move to" menus) that dont appear to
> >> > have an option in konqueror but setting them in dolphin also affects
> >> > konqueror (they probably share most settings).
> >>
> >> Quite true. After closing and reopening Konqueror, the change had
> >> taken effect in it as well.
> >
> > On my Mandriva laptop the first, Behavior page of Konq's settings,
> > there's an option to rename in-line.
>
> Just double checked, the only behaviour page I have is under 'Web
> Browser' in the settings tree

It might be a version difference.  I've still not found any way to get a true 
4.1.1 on the Fedora box, and the Mandriva laptop is such a long way behind.

Anne

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When I use KDE, the actual HW is the default sound device which causes
immediate failure messages.  Shouldn't KDE default to PulseAudio for its
sound device?

Mark Bidewell

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immediate failure messages.&nbsp; Shouldn&#39;t KDE default to PulseAudio for its \
sound device?<br><br>Mark Bidewell<br></div>



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Mark Bidewell wrote:
> When I use KDE, the actual HW is the default sound device which causes 
> immediate failure messages.  Shouldn't KDE default to PulseAudio for its 
> sound device?

Yes.

We've found the gstreamer phonon backend to be problematic for that. 
Which one are you using and/or have installed?

rpm -q phonon-backend-xine phonon-backend-gstreamer

-- Rex




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On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Mark Bidewell wrote:
> When I use KDE, the actual HW is the default sound device which causes
> immediate failure messages.  Shouldn't KDE default to PulseAudio for its
> sound device?
>
> Mark Bidewell

I find this whole setup bewildering.  But don't mind me, I'm just a EE with 30 
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The config dialog shows only gstreamer.  Moving PulseAudio to the top of the
HW list seems to work great.  Is Xine the recommended backend?

Mark Bidewell

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote:

> Mark Bidewell wrote:
> > When I use KDE, the actual HW is the default sound device which causes
> > immediate failure messages.  Shouldn't KDE default to PulseAudio for its
> > sound device?
>
> Yes.
>
> We've found the gstreamer phonon backend to be problematic for that.
> Which one are you using and/or have installed?
>
> rpm -q phonon-backend-xine phonon-backend-gstreamer
>
> -- Rex
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<div dir="ltr">The config dialog shows only gstreamer.&nbsp; Moving PulseAudio to the \
top of the HW list seems to work great.&nbsp; Is Xine the recommended \
backend?<br><br>Mark Bidewell<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at \
10:35 AM, Rex Dieter <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
href="mailto:rdieter@math.unl.edu">rdieter@math.unl.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> \
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class="Wj3C7c">Mark Bidewell wrote:<br> &gt; When I use KDE, the actual HW is the \
default sound device which causes<br> &gt; immediate failure messages. \
&nbsp;Shouldn&#39;t KDE default to PulseAudio for its<br> &gt; sound device?<br>
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</div></div>Yes.<br>
<br>
We&#39;ve found the gstreamer phonon backend to be problematic for that.<br>
Which one are you using and/or have installed?<br>
<br>
rpm -q phonon-backend-xine phonon-backend-gstreamer<br>
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On Wednesday September 17, 2008 9:50:27 am Mark Bidewell wrote:
> The config dialog shows only gstreamer.  Moving PulseAudio to the top of
> the HW list seems to work great.  Is Xine the recommended backend?

They both work, but yeah, xine is the recommended one (still) for precisely 
the reasons outlined in this thread. 

-- Rex

> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote:
> > Mark Bidewell wrote:
> > > When I use KDE, the actual HW is the default sound device which
> > > causes immediate failure messages.  Shouldn't KDE default to
> > > PulseAudio for its sound device?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > We've found the gstreamer phonon backend to be problematic for that.
> > Which one are you using and/or have installed?
> >
> > rpm -q phonon-backend-xine phonon-backend-gstreamer
> >
> > -- Rex
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