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Today's Topics:
1. Pleasant Surprise in finding 4.0.83 (kwhiskerz)
2. Re: Pleasant Surprise in finding 4.0.83 (kwhiskerz)
3. Re: Report on the upgrade from 4.0.5 to 4.0.82 (Colin J Thomson)
4. Re: Pleasant Surprise in finding 4.0.83 (Jos? Matos)
5. Re: Report on the upgrade from 4.0.5 to 4.0.82 (Colin J Thomson)
6. Plasma panels (Marcelo Magno T. Sales)
7. Re: Pleasant Surprise in finding 4.0.83 (kwhiskerz)
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How unexpected, so soon after 4.0.82! Hope the updates come more frequently,
to keep on partaking of the repairs.
A question: kdebindings is still in 4.0.80? Is it no longer part of the latest
kde or do I still keep it?
In order to install 4.0.83, it was sadly necessary to rpm -e digikam libkipi
libkdcraw kipi-plugins. Digikam is the program I use to look at photos. I will
have to content myself with gwenview, which has never appealed, but perhaps in
kde4 it is better.
I don't know if this list is the place to report bugs, but here goes:
- when korganizer/kontakt signals a number of reminders that occur at the same
time, selectin nend dismissing it dismisses the whole list. Don't know whether
the reboot or power off problem with forgetting reminders still exists.
- korganizer still does not put itself into the system tray. Supposedly, the
reminder daemon is still supposed to be running, but that wasn't the case in
4.0.82 and earlier. I will know in a day or so.
- networkmanager is not in the system tray.
- the picture frame plasmoid still jumps around on the screen instead of
staying in one place and resizing itself appropriately, like was the case in
4.0.4 with the extragear package.
Other than that, I cannot tell if anything is different yet.
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content="1" /><style type="text/css">p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; \
}</style></head><body style=" font-family:'DejaVu Sans'; font-size:10pt; \
font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">How unexpected, so soon after 4.0.82! Hope the \
updates come more frequently, to keep on partaking of the repairs.<br><p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p>A \
question: kdebindings is still in 4.0.80? Is it no longer part of the latest kde or \
do I still keep it?<br><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p>In order to install 4.0.83, it was sadly \
necessary to rpm -e digikam libkipi libkdcraw kipi-plugins. Digikam is the program I \
use to look at photos. I will have to content myself with gwenview, which has never \
appealed, but perhaps in kde4 it is better.<br><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p>I don't know if this list \
is the place to report bugs, but here goes:<br><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p>- when korganizer/kontakt \
signals a number of reminders that occur at the same time, selectin nend dismissing \
it dismisses the whole list. Don't know whether the reboot or power off problem with \
forgetting reminders still exists.<br><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p>- korganizer still does \
not put itself into the system tray. Supposedly, the reminder daemon is still \
supposed to be running, but that wasn't the case in 4.0.82 and earlier. I will know \
in a day or so.<br><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p>- networkmanager is not in the system \
tray.<br><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p>- the picture frame plasmoid still jumps around on the screen \
instead of staying in one place and resizing itself appropriately, like was the case \
in 4.0.4 with the extragear package.<br><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p>Other than that, I cannot \
tell if anything is different yet.</p></body></html>
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As you just saw, the kmail editing problem still remains. I was unable to edit
"selecting and dismissing" in my previous posting. What is new, and worse, was
that now the delete button made the text before the cursor get erased and
there was no way to instert text like it is supposed to work. A work in
progress, this is, but from a 'mere user' perspective, I do not understand how
things that used to work don't anymore. Is the wheel being reinvented? I am
not complaining, however. In one month... things should be much better.
Despite blemishes, it is usable.
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}</style></head><body style=" font-family:'DejaVu Sans'; font-size:10pt; \
font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">As you just saw, the kmail editing problem still \
remains. I was unable to edit "selecting and dismissing" in my previous posting. What \
is new, and worse, was that now the delete button made the text before the cursor get \
erased and there was no way to instert text like it is supposed to work. A work in \
progress, this is, but from a 'mere user' perspective, I do not understand how things \
that used to work don't anymore. Is the wheel being reinvented? I am not complaining, \
however. In one month... things should be much better. Despite blemishes, it is \
usable.</p></body></html>
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From: Colin J Thomson <colin@g6avk.demon.co.uk>
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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:02:53 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Report on the upgrade from 4.0.5 to 4.0.82
Message: 3
On Friday 20 June 2008 15:29:58 Rex Dieter wrote:
> Colin J Thomson wrote:
> >> . KMix window always starts opened after logon
> >
> > Yes confirmed here, Bug #163770
>
> Turns out this one's easy, kmix now starts automatically and changed launch
> options (?). quick-n-dirty fix is remove kmix references from:
> /usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/ksmserverrc or
> maybe even remove that file altogether.
Initial tests made no difference Rex, I even moved the file out the way. I'll
try some more testing over the weekend.
Cheers
Colin
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Fedora 9 (Sulphur)
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:39:56 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Pleasant Surprise in finding 4.0.83
Message: 4
On Saturday 21 June 2008 06:18:36 kwhiskerz wrote:
> How unexpected, so soon after 4.0.82! Hope the updates come more
> frequently, to keep on partaking of the repairs.
>
> In order to install 4.0.83, it was sadly necessary to rpm -e digikam
> libkipi libkdcraw kipi-plugins. Digikam is the program I use to look at
> photos. I will have to content myself with gwenview, which has never
> appealed, but perhaps in kde4 it is better.
The problem is simple:
Transaction Check Error:
file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kipi.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/kipi.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kipi.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kipi.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
Forcing the install using rpm by hand shortcircuited the problem. :-)
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José Abílio
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:07:36 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Report on the upgrade from 4.0.5 to 4.0.82
Message: 5
On Friday 20 June 2008 19:02:53 Colin J Thomson wrote:
> On Friday 20 June 2008 15:29:58 Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Colin J Thomson wrote:
> > >> . KMix window always starts opened after logon
> > >
> > > Yes confirmed here, Bug #163770
> >
> > Turns out this one's easy, kmix now starts automatically and changed
> > launch options (?). quick-n-dirty fix is remove kmix references from:
> > /usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/ksmserverrc or
> > maybe even remove that file altogether.
>
> Initial tests made no difference Rex, I even moved the file out the way.
> I'll try some more testing over the weekend.
I have now updated to 4.0.83 and restored the ksmserverrc file and it seems to
be fixed now,
Cheers
Colin
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Plasma panels
Message: 6
Aren't plasma panels retractable yet or I just didn't find out how to
make them retractable?
[]'s
Marcelo
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On June 21, 2008 03:39:56 José Matos wrote:
> The problem is simple:
> Transaction Check Error:
> file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
> kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
> libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
> file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
> kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
> libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
> file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
> kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
> libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
> file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
> kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
> libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
> file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kipi.png from install of
> kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
> libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
> file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/kipi.png from install of
> kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
> libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
> file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kipi.png from install of
> kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
> libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
> file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kipi.png from install of
> kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
> libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
>
> Forcing the install using rpm by hand shortcircuited the problem. :-)
I thought of that, but I thought that it was possible that these libraries
might now be included in kde itself, so I didn't want to force anything. As
per your method: what would happen when libkipi gets updated? Would you have
to force update to avoid conflict with kdegraphics?
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font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">On June 21, 2008 03:39:56 José Matos \
wrote:<br>> The problem is simple:<br>> Transaction Check Error:<br>> file \
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kdcraw.png from install of<br>> \
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package<br>> \
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386<br>> file \
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kdcraw.png from install of<br>> \
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package<br>> \
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386<br>> file \
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kdcraw.png from install of<br>> \
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package<br>> \
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386<br>> file \
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kdcraw.png from install of<br>> \
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package<br>> \
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386<br>> file \
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kipi.png from install of<br>> \
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package<br>> \
libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386<br>> file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/kipi.png \
from install of<br>> kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from \
package<br>> libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386<br>> file \
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kipi.png from install of<br>> \
kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package<br>> \
libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386<br>> file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kipi.png \
from install of<br>> kdegraphics-4.0.83-1.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from \
package<br>> libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386<br>><br>> Forcing the install using \
rpm by hand shortcircuited the problem. :-)<br><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p>I thought of that, but I \
thought that it was possible that these libraries might now be included in kde \
itself, so I didn't want to force anything. As per your method: what would happen \
when libkipi gets updated? Would you have to force update to avoid conflict with \
kdegraphics?<br><p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p></body></html>
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