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Today's Topics:
1. Re: updates and kde-redhat on FC6? (Tim Wunder)
2. Re: updates and kde-redhat on FC6? (JP Renaud)
3. Re: updates and kde-redhat on FC6? (Tim Wunder)
4. Re: updates and kde-redhat on FC6? (JP Renaud)
5. Re: desktop-effects with KDE on F7 (Jesus Jr M Salvo)
6. Re: desktop-effects with KDE on F7 (Eli Wapniarski)
7. Re: NetworkManager on fc7 (Frank Schmitt)
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On Friday 29 June 2007 10:00:52 am JP Renaud wrote:
> > Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
> > From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
> > Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE 3.5.7
> > packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I assume that
> > this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are installed?
> >
> > <quote>
> > Updating:
> > kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > 8.8 M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > 1.2 M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > 5.8 M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > 11 M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > 5.7 M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > 29 M kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6
> > updates 7.8 M kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6
> > updates 3.8 M </quote>
>
> Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your list)
> that are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat stable. In
> particular, kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...
I have KDE 3.5.7 bits from kde-redhat testing. These appear to be packages
that updates has updated to 3.5.7 but kde-redhat still has at 3.5.6 (even
including the testing repo). My guess is they're fine.
Tim
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:53:17 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] updates and kde-redhat on FC6?
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> Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
> From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
> On Friday 29 June 2007 10:00:52 am JP Renaud wrote:
> > > Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
> > > From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
> > > Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE
> > > 3.5.7 packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I
> > > assume that this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are
> > > installed?
> > >
> > > <quote>
> > > Updating:
> > > kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > 8.8 M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > 1.2 M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > 5.8 M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > 11 M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > 5.7 M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6
> > > updates 29 M kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > 7.8 M kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > 3.8 M </quote>
> >
> > Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your list)
> > that are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat stable. In
> > particular, kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...
>
> I have KDE 3.5.7 bits from kde-redhat testing. These appear to be packages
> that updates has updated to 3.5.7 but kde-redhat still has at 3.5.6 (even
> including the testing repo). My guess is they're fine.
Actually, it looks like the whole of kde is going to be updated via "updates"
for those (like me) who run "kde-redhat stable". Is that normal? I have
launched it from the laptop, waiting to see how it goes before doing the
workstation.
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On Friday 29 June 2007 3:53:17 pm JP Renaud wrote:
> > Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
> > From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
> >
> > On Friday 29 June 2007 10:00:52 am JP Renaud wrote:
> > > > Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
> > > > From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
> > > > Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE
> > > > 3.5.7 packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I
> > > > assume that this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are
> > > > installed?
> > > >
> > > > <quote>
> > > > Updating:
> > > > kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > > 8.8 M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > > 1.2 M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > > 5.8 M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > > 11 M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6
> > > > updates 5.7 M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > > 29 M kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 7.8 M
> > > > kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 3.8 M
> > > > </quote>
> > >
> > > Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your
> > > list) that are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat
> > > stable. In particular, kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...
> >
> > I have KDE 3.5.7 bits from kde-redhat testing. These appear to be
> > packages that updates has updated to 3.5.7 but kde-redhat still has at
> > 3.5.6 (even including the testing repo). My guess is they're fine.
>
> Actually, it looks like the whole of kde is going to be updated via
> "updates" for those (like me) who run "kde-redhat stable". Is that normal?
> I have launched it from the laptop, waiting to see how it goes before doing
> the workstation.
Than Ngo uploaded kde 3.5.7 packages for FC6 to fedora updates this past
Wednesday (according to the Fedora Updates mailing list). AFAIK, the
kde-redhat packaged bits of KDE 3.5.7 are still in testing. So if you don't
have testing enabled, the updates you see to KDE 3.5.7 are coming from
Fedora, and not kde-redhat. Now for Fedora 7, there's almost no difference
(as I understand things) between Fedora's KDE and kde-redhat's, but I'm not
sure that's true with FC6 (which I'm using).
Let's hope Rex chimes in and clarifies what's going on...
Regards,
Tim
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KDE: 3.5.7-8.fc6 Fedora
15:55:01 up 29 days, 8:02, 2 users, load average: 0.49, 0.27, 0.15
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] updates and kde-redhat on FC6?
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> Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
> From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
> On Friday 29 June 2007 3:53:17 pm JP Renaud wrote:
> > > Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
> > > From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
> > >
> > > On Friday 29 June 2007 10:00:52 am JP Renaud wrote:
> > > > > Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
> > > > > From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
> > > > > Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE
> > > > > 3.5.7 packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I
> > > > > assume that this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are
> > > > > installed?
> > > > >
> > > > > <quote>
> > > > > Updating:
> > > > > kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > > > 8.8 M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > > > 1.2 M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > > > 5.8 M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6
> > > > > updates 11 M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
> > > > > 5.7 M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 29 M
> > > > > kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 7.8 M
> > > > > kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 3.8 M
> > > > > </quote>
> > > >
> > > > Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your
> > > > list) that are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat
> > > > stable. In particular, kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...
> > >
> > > I have KDE 3.5.7 bits from kde-redhat testing. These appear to be
> > > packages that updates has updated to 3.5.7 but kde-redhat still has at
> > > 3.5.6 (even including the testing repo). My guess is they're fine.
> >
> > Actually, it looks like the whole of kde is going to be updated via
> > "updates" for those (like me) who run "kde-redhat stable". Is that
> > normal? I have launched it from the laptop, waiting to see how it goes
> > before doing the workstation.
>
> Than Ngo uploaded kde 3.5.7 packages for FC6 to fedora updates this past
> Wednesday (according to the Fedora Updates mailing list). AFAIK, the
> kde-redhat packaged bits of KDE 3.5.7 are still in testing. So if you don't
> have testing enabled, the updates you see to KDE 3.5.7 are coming from
> Fedora, and not kde-redhat. Now for Fedora 7, there's almost no difference
> (as I understand things) between Fedora's KDE and kde-redhat's, but I'm not
> sure that's true with FC6 (which I'm using).
Actually, the update just failed with loads of conflicts problems. I was on
tty1 and can't actually copy the list right now but will do tomorrow.
> Let's hope Rex chimes in and clarifies what's going on...
>
> Regards,
> Tim
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] desktop-effects with KDE on F7
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On 29/06/07, Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org> wrote:
> > So my questions are:
> >
> > 1) How do I have wobbling windows in KDE ?
> > 2) How do I have cube workspaces in KDE ?
> >
>
> In the KDE menu -> System -> Beryl Manager.
>
> Eli
>
In Berly Settings Manager -> Visual Effects, the Wobbly Windows option
is checked, but the windows are not wobbling when moved.
John
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] desktop-effects with KDE on F7
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On Saturday 30 June 2007 09:53:43 am Jesus Jr M Salvo wrote:
> On 29/06/07, Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org> wrote:
> > > So my questions are:
> > >
> > > 1) How do I have wobbling windows in KDE ?
> > > 2) How do I have cube workspaces in KDE ?
> >
> > In the KDE menu -> System -> Beryl Manager.
> >
> > Eli
>
> In Berly Settings Manager -> Visual Effects, the Wobbly Windows option
> is checked, but the windows are not wobbling when moved.
>
> John
>
In the basic tab, try exanding shiver and ensuring that it's on. Then Click on
the advanced tab and expand move, there you will need to experiment with the
type of windows that you want to wobble when you move the.
Eli
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] NetworkManager on fc7
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Erik Kjær Pedersen <erik@binghamton.edu> writes:
> I installed fc7 from the live kde cd. In spite of not choosing dhcp, but
> rather a fixed ip I get dhcp and therefore an unwanted ip-number every time I
> reboot. The reason is that the usual network service is not running and
> NetworkManager uses dhcp no matter what you do. That is rather catastrophic
> for me because I have the computer connected to a linksys router and outside
> requests are directed to a specific ip number. If the electricity goes and
> the computer reboots, I would no longer have access. I have repaired it by
> disabling NetworkManager and enabling network, but it seems to be an error in
> the installation program that you choose a fixed ip and get a variable dhcp
> ip anyway
plus not starting network means the loopback interface isn't brought up,
that makes e.g. postfix start up failing.
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