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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: packaging problem with fc6 (Rex Dieter)
   2. Re: packaging problem with fc6 (Eli Wapniarski)
   3. NetworkManager on fc7 (Erik Kj?r Pedersen)
   4. Re: USB devices won't mount (Claude Jones)
   5. desktop-effects with KDE on F7 (Jesus Jr M Salvo)
   6. Missing Dependency kdebase? (Allen Winter)
   7. Re: desktop-effects with KDE on F7 (Eli Wapniarski)
   8. updates and kde-redhat on FC6? (Tim Wunder)
   9. Re: updates and kde-redhat on FC6? (JP Renaud)

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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] packaging problem with fc6
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Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> OK.
> 
> This one is a bit weird.
> 
> I'm getting an endless loop with kdemultimedia-3.5.7-1.fc6 and 
> kdemultimedia-devel-3.5.7-1.fc6
> 
> apt-get is reporting that it wants to install the packages from the testing 
> repos even though they are already installed from kde testing. This is true 
> for i386 and x86_64 repos.
> 
> apt-get clean
> apt-get update
> apt-get upgrade
> 
> Get:1 http://apt.kde-redhat.org fedora/6/x86_64/testing kdemultimedia 
> 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 [5374kB]
> Get:2 http://apt.kde-redhat.org fedora/6/x86_64/testing kdemultimedia-devel 
> 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 [143kB]
> 
>         package kdemultimedia-3.5.7-1.fc6 is already installed
>         package kdemultimedia-devel-3.5.7-1.fc6 is already installed

apt on fc6 seems very confused.

-- Rex




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> > Get:1 http://apt.kde-redhat.org fedora/6/x86_64/testing kdemultimedia
> > 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 [5374kB]
> > Get:2 http://apt.kde-redhat.org fedora/6/x86_64/testing
> > kdemultimedia-devel 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 [143kB]
> >
> >         package kdemultimedia-3.5.7-1.fc6 is already installed
> >         package kdemultimedia-devel-3.5.7-1.fc6 is already installed
>
> apt on fc6 seems very confused.
>

LOL

Me too?

If you can find the time, anyway to rebuild with a higher version number?

Eli

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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] NetworkManager on fc7
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I installed fc7 from the live kde cd. In spite of not choosing dhcp, but 
rather a fixed ip I get dhcp and therefore an unwanted ip-number every time I 
reboot. The reason is that the usual network service is not running and 
NetworkManager uses dhcp no matter what you do. That is rather catastrophic 
for me because I have the computer connected to a linksys router and outside 
requests are directed to a specific ip number. If the electricity goes and 
the computer reboots, I would no longer have access. I have repaired it by 
disabling NetworkManager and enabling network, but it seems to be an error in 
the installation program that you choose a fixed ip and get a variable dhcp 
ip anyway

Best regards

Erik




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] USB devices won't mount
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On Thu June 28 2007 09:06:55 Claude Jones wrote:
> On Thursday June 28 2007 8:21:36 am Rex Dieter wrote:
> > anything bugzilla'd yet?   (If not, please do)
>
> OK - I found a thread about a similar problem with F7
> I'm going to try the suggestions there when I get in to the
> office

Below is the thread to which I alluded:

**********************************************

John Bowden wrote:
> Hi list
>             Fresh install of F7. I just plugged in two different USB 
external hard rives 
> and none of them were auto mounted. Both drives are IDE drives 
in external 
> USB enclosures. One is a laptop drive and the enclosure gets 
its power from 
> the USB socket, the other is standard size drive and the 
enclosure has its 
> own power supply. Any ideas?

This is determined by 
/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/99-redhat-storage-policy-fixed-drives.fdi. 
You can either edit it or just move it out of that location and 
auto 
mounting would work.

It has been done as a security measure but policy kit in Fedora 8 
should 
make this much more usable. There is a recent discussion in 
fedora-devel 
list about this FYI.

Rahul

*********************************************

I tried editing the file, changing the two 'false' statements 
to 'true' - that produced a udev failure warning on bootup, and 
hotplugging didn't work; then, I just deleted my modified file 
and renamed the original with an extension; that produced no 
error but hotplug still didn't work. I am able to mount the 
devices as root, but then they have root permissions, and I can 
only read from them. I have a USB pen drive, and an external USB 
hard drive - both used to work perfectly with automount

So, is this a hal or udev issue...or something else? - trying to 
figure out what I'd bugzilla.

-- 
Claude Jones
Levit & James, Inc.
Leesburg, VA, USA




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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] desktop-effects with KDE on F7
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After trying desktop effect on gnome in F7, I was trying if I get the
same effects in kde. However, I don't get the wobbling effects, but I
do
recognise that menus are somewhat animated ( drawn from small, then
bigger and bigger until it reaches its normal size ), or a sliding
effect. All of this is actual fast, so perhaps the only reason I
noticed it was because I was conscious that I enabled desktop effects
in Gnome.

Looking at KDE Control Center, there is now a Beryl option under
"Appearance and Themes". This option shows Opacity and Shadows. Under
the "Style" option in Control Panel and then the "Effects" toolbar, I
also see "Enable GUI Effects" which is checked, and they all have the
"Animate" option selected, except for the "Menu tear-off handles"
which has "Application Level".

So my questions are:

1) How do I have wobbling windows in KDE ?
2) How do I have cube workspaces in KDE ?




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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Missing Dependency kdebase?
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Running 'yum update' this morning:

--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: kdelibs-apidocs for package: kdevelop
--> Processing Dependency: libutempter-devel for package: kdelibs-devel
--> Processing Dependency: kdebase = 6:3.5.6-3.fc6 for package: kdebase-kdm
--> Processing Dependency: qt-devel-docs for package: kdevelop
--> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes.
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package libutempter-devel.i386 0:1.1.4-3.fc6 set to be updated
---> Package kdelibs-apidocs.i386 6:3.5.7-0.1.fc6 set to be updated
---> Package qt-devel-docs.i386 1:3.3.8-1.fc6 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: kdebase = 6:3.5.6-3.fc6 for package: kdebase-kdm
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: kdebase = 6:3.5.6-3.fc6 is needed by package kdebase-kdm

Something I need to fix?

-Allen




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> So my questions are:
>
> 1) How do I have wobbling windows in KDE ?
> 2) How do I have cube workspaces in KDE ?
>

In the KDE menu -> System -> Beryl Manager.

Eli

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Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE 3.5.7 
packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I assume that this 
update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are installed?

<quote>
Updating:
 kdeaccessibility        i386       1:3.5.7-1.fc6    updates           8.8 M
 kdeadmin                i386       7:3.5.7-1.fc6    updates           1.2 M
 kdeartwork              i386       3.5.7-1.fc6      updates           5.8 M
 kdeartwork-icons        i386       3.5.7-1.fc6      updates            11 M
 kdebindings             i386       3.5.7-1.fc6      updates           5.7 M
 kdeedu                  i386       3.5.7-1.fc6      updates            29 M
 kdegraphics             i386       7:3.5.7-1.fc6    updates           7.8 M
 kdeutils                i386       6:3.5.7-1.fc6    updates           3.8 M
</quote>


Thanks, 
Tim

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Fedora Core release 6 (Zod), Linux 2.6.20-1.2952.fc6
KDE: 3.5.7-8.fc6 Fedora
 09:50:01 up 29 days,  1:57,  2 users,  load average: 0.24, 0.15, 0.11
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] updates and kde-redhat on FC6?
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> Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007 
> From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
> Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE 3.5.7
> packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I assume that
> this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are installed?
>
> <quote>
> Updating:
>  kdeaccessibility        i386       1:3.5.7-1.fc6    updates           8.8
> M kdeadmin                i386       7:3.5.7-1.fc6    updates           1.2
> M kdeartwork              i386       3.5.7-1.fc6      updates           5.8
> M kdeartwork-icons        i386       3.5.7-1.fc6      updates            11
> M kdebindings             i386       3.5.7-1.fc6      updates           5.7
> M kdeedu                  i386       3.5.7-1.fc6      updates            29
> M kdegraphics             i386       7:3.5.7-1.fc6    updates           7.8
> M kdeutils                i386       6:3.5.7-1.fc6    updates           3.8
> M </quote>

Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your list) that 
are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat stable. In particular, 
kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...

-- 
JP Renaud

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