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Subject:    kde-redhat-users Digest, Vol 13, Issue 4
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Today's Topics:

   1. Kde-Redhat (stable) F7 ready? (Patrick Steiner)
   2. Re: Kde-Redhat (stable) F7 ready? (Jos? Matos)
   3. Re: fedora/7/testing repo (Rex Dieter)
   4. I broke it!  :( (Kris Deugau)
   5. Re: I broke it!  :( (Rex Dieter)
   6. Re: I broke it!  :( (Kris Deugau)

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From: Patrick Steiner <patrick.steiner@a1.net>
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Kde-Redhat (stable) F7 ready?
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hi,

is kde-redhat (stable) already f7 ready? or should i wait with the update?

regards,
 patrick




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On Tuesday 05 June 2007 08:37:35 Patrick Steiner wrote:
> hi,
>
> is kde-redhat (stable) already f7 ready? or should i wait with the update?

  Yes.

  I have been using it here with no problems. :-)

> regards,
>  patrick


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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] fedora/7/testing repo
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Rex Dieter wrote:

> José Matos wrote:
>> On Thursday 17 May 2007 15:51:14 Rex Dieter wrote:
>>> fedora/7/testing repo contains pretty much what we intend to ship KDE in
>>> F7.  Feedback please!  (and fast, final freeze is looming soon).
>> 
>>   I noticed while updating Susana's laptop to F7 that kdepim in
>>   kde-stable
>> does not have some .la libraries and so some kdeparts don't work.
> 
> Thanks, I'll fix that asap.

kdepim-3.5.6-7.fc7 should address that.

(I had tried previously to build that as part of f7, but the builds had
failed mysteriously on fedora's koji buildsystem, even though they build
fine for me here in mock).

-- Rex





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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] I broke it!  :(
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After finding this repository while trying to get kopete to connect to a 
local SSL Jabber server, I've largely left the KDE packages alone.

Mostly CentOS 4.5 stock (Perl and a few command-line dev tools from 
RPMForge);  AFAIK none of the core X/KDE/Linux-desktop packages have 
been replaced except for those from the kde-redhat repo.

While doing some other updates, I re-enabled the "core" repo and updated 
a number of components from version 3.5.4-8.0.el4 (a few appear to have 
been -10.0.el4) to 3.5.6-4.el4.

Bad idea.  (I should know better than to mess with third-party Linux 
desktop packages by now;  every time I do something breaks.  :/  )

Immediately after the "upgrade", the login screen appeared to have lost 
a number of options, I no longer had any option to shut the system down 
or restart it from the "Log Out" button or menu option, and things that 
were supposed to start on login, didn't.  I don't appear to be able to 
host multiple local X sessions, either;  when my current session is 
locked, I no longer have the option of starting a new login session from 
the "unlock session" dialog.

In the process of trying to either revert to the previous working 
packages or find and fix the configuration files for the components that 
were no longer working the same way (or at all), I've recovered just 
about everything within an active desktop session, but taskbar buttons 
for active  minimized windows don't seem to be present any more.  The 
"External Taskbar panel seems to be working, but it's sucking up another 
chunk of screen space.

Can anyone point out places I might look to correct these behaviour 
changes?  Is it worth reporting any of these changes as bugs?  This was 
a minor-version upgrade (3.5.4-8.0.el4 -> 3.5.6-4.el4);  IMO it should 
have been absolutely transparent.

-kgd




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Kris Deugau wrote:

> Immediately after the "upgrade", the login screen appeared to have lost 
> a number of options, I no longer had any option to shut the system down 
> or restart it from the "Log Out" button or menu option, and things that 
> were supposed to start on login, didn't.  I don't appear to be able to 
> host multiple local X sessions, either;  when my current session is 
> locked, I no longer have the option of starting a new login session from 
> the "unlock session" dialog.

You probably don't have
kdebase-kdm
installed.
(In retrospect, probably a bad idea I split that into a separate package)

> In the process of trying to either revert to the previous working 
> packages or find and fix the configuration files for the components that 
> were no longer working the same way (or at all), I've recovered just 
> about everything within an active desktop session, but taskbar buttons 
> for active  minimized windows don't seem to be present any more.  The 
> "External Taskbar panel seems to be working, but it's sucking up another 
> chunk of screen space.

dunno about this part.

-- Rex




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] I broke it!  :(
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> Kris Deugau wrote:
>> Immediately after the "upgrade", the login screen appeared to have lost 
>> a number of options, I no longer had any option to shut the system down 
>> or restart it from the "Log Out" button or menu option, and things that 
>> were supposed to start on login, didn't.  I don't appear to be able to 
>> host multiple local X sessions, either;  when my current session is 
>> locked, I no longer have the option of starting a new login session from 
>> the "unlock session" dialog.
> 
> You probably don't have
> kdebase-kdm
> installed.

I didn't.  Installed and rebooted (simply restarting X didn't seem to 
pick up the change);  sessions appear to be working, and kdm is now the 
login manager.  Thanks!

> (In retrospect, probably a bad idea I split that into a separate package)

<g>  Been there, shot my foot off.  More than once.  <sigh>

Well, as long as it's brought in on dependencies it should be fine. 
Maybe a dependency in kdebase?  (I don't know what the full relationship 
tree looks like for the KDE packages.)  It's not strictly *necessary*; 
I was able to log on and off without trouble.  I just couldn't switch to 
a new session, or shut down/reboot from either the log on or log off 
dialogs.

>> In the process of trying to either revert to the previous working 
>> packages or find and fix the configuration files for the components that 
>> were no longer working the same way (or at all), I've recovered just 
>> about everything within an active desktop session, but taskbar buttons 
>> for active  minimized windows don't seem to be present any more.  The 
>> "External Taskbar panel seems to be working, but it's sucking up another 
>> chunk of screen space.
> 
> dunno about this part.

I managed to fix this myself after some more fiddling.  FWIW, it seems 
that somewhere along the line I managed to eliminate ALL of the applets 
from the default panel.  O_o  I swear I have no idea how I managed to do 
that, although flipping back and forth between versions of KDE 
components probably contributed.  (I also discovered that the system 
tray, clock, taskbar, desktop-switcher, and a handful of other things 
are considered panel applets, and my missing taskbar was, in fact, a 
missing taskbar applet.  <g>)

-kgd



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