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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: CONT: FC6/x86_64 - missing packages? (Rex Dieter)
   2. kpilot (Anthony J. H. M. Meijer)
   3. Re: kpilot (Allen Winter)
   4. Re: kpilot (Anthony J. H. M. Meijer)
   5. Re: kpilot on rhel4, requires pilot-link-0.12 (Rex Dieter)
   6. Re: kpilot on rhel4, requires pilot-link-0.12
      (Anthony J. H. M. Meijer)
   7. Re: kpilot on rhel4, requires pilot-link-0.12 (Rex Dieter)
   8. Re: kpilot on rhel4, requires pilot-link-0.12 (Gilboa Davara)
   9. Re: kpilot on rhel4, requires pilot-link-0.12
      (Anthony J. H. M. Meijer)

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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] CONT: FC6/x86_64 - missing packages?
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Gilboa Davara wrote:

> I managed to get another machine running (by removing anything
> kde/arts/qt*.i386 - but I'm still missing a couple of packages.
> 
> [root@gilboa-work-dev x86_64]# rpm -qa | grep kde  | grep 3.5.5
> kdebindings-3.5.5-1.fc6.x86_64
> kdeartwork-extras-3.5.5-2.fc6.x86_64
> kde-i18n-Hebrew-3.5.5-0.2.kde.noarch
> kdeutils-3.5.5-1.fc6.x86_64

These missing bits should be available now (kdebindings.x86_64 still
building atm however).

-- Rex





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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] kpilot
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Dear All,

I am running EL4 with testing enabled, so have upgraded to 3.5.6. Everything 
appears to be fine sofar, apart from 1 thing: Kpilot has disappeared :-(

It appears that the dependencies for kpilot have changed to include pilot-link 
0.12, which is probably why it did not get built (Is that correct, Rex ?)

So, the replacement is kitchensync ? Does anybody have any experience with 
that ? Is it reliable ? Or is there an alternative way to get kpilot back ?

Thank in advance for any info,

Anthony


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From: Allen Winter <awinterz@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kpilot
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On Monday 29 January 2007 4:17:19 am Anthony J. H. M. Meijer wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I am running EL4 with testing enabled, so have upgraded to 3.5.6. Everything 
> appears to be fine sofar, apart from 1 thing: Kpilot has disappeared :-(
> 
> It appears that the dependencies for kpilot have changed to include pilot-link 
> 0.12, which is probably why it did not get built (Is that correct, Rex ?)
> 
This is correct.
Rex, if you look at the results of the kdepim configure, you'll see that
kpilot requires pilot-link 0.12.

> So, the replacement is kitchensync ? Does anybody have any experience with 
> that ? Is it reliable ? Or is there an alternative way to get kpilot back ?
> 
No, stick with kpilot.  At least until KDE4.0

Regards,
Allen, KDEPIM release dude






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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kpilot
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On Monday 29 January 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> On Monday 29 January 2007 4:17:19 am Anthony J. H. M. Meijer wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I am running EL4 with testing enabled, so have upgraded to 3.5.6.
> > Everything appears to be fine sofar, apart from 1 thing: Kpilot has
> > disappeared :-(
> >
> > It appears that the dependencies for kpilot have changed to include
> > pilot-link 0.12, which is probably why it did not get built (Is that
> > correct, Rex ?)
>
> This is correct.
> Rex, if you look at the results of the kdepim configure, you'll see that
> kpilot requires pilot-link 0.12.
>
> > So, the replacement is kitchensync ? Does anybody have any experience
> > with that ? Is it reliable ? Or is there an alternative way to get kpilot
> > back ?
>
> No, stick with kpilot.  At least until KDE4.0
>
> Regards,
> Allen, KDEPIM release dude

So, then the obvious question becomes: how does one get pilot-link 0.12 on 
EL4 ?

Anthony

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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kpilot on rhel4, requires pilot-link-0.12
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Anthony J. H. M. Meijer wrote:
> On Monday 29 January 2007, Allen Winter wrote:

>> kpilot requires pilot-link 0.12.
...
> So, then the obvious question becomes: how does one get pilot-link 0.12 on 
> EL4 ?

You don't.  There are other stuff  in RHEL4 that depends on the existing
pilot-link-0.11.  And, I don't think pilot-link-0.11 and 0.12 are
parallel-installable either.

Icky poo.

-- Rex





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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kpilot on rhel4, requires pilot-link-0.12
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On Monday 29 January 2007, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Anthony J. H. M. Meijer wrote:
> > On Monday 29 January 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> >> kpilot requires pilot-link 0.12.
>
> ...
>
> > So, then the obvious question becomes: how does one get pilot-link 0.12
> > on EL4 ?
>
> You don't.  There are other stuff  in RHEL4 that depends on the existing
> pilot-link-0.11.  And, I don't think pilot-link-0.11 and 0.12 are
> parallel-installable either.
>
> Icky poo.
>

Ah. Rock on this side and hard place on the other then...bummer!

Hmm, any solutions I can think of are really messy. Any ideas ?

Anthony



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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kpilot on rhel4, requires pilot-link-0.12
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> Anthony J. H. M. Meijer wrote:
> > On Monday 29 January 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> 
> > > kpilot requires pilot-link 0.12.
> ...
> > So, then the obvious question becomes: how does one get pilot-link 0.12 on 
> > EL4 ?
> 
> You don't.  There are other stuff  in RHEL4 that depends on the existing
> pilot-link-0.11.  And, I don't think pilot-link-0.11 and 0.12 are
> parallel-installable either.
> 
> Icky poo.

I forgot too, that FC-6 rolled back to pilot-link-0.11 (from 0.12) due
to incompatibilities and problems with the previous 0.12 pre-releases.
That, and because the pilot-link devs are just jerks (see the "Anonymous
CVS Removed indefinitely" heading on http://www.pilot-link.org/).

End result, *no* version of RHEL or Fedora Core supports kpilot now.
*Sigh*.

/me claps a round of applause for the kde devs who chose to drop support
for previously working folks using pilot-link < 0.12 (kinda like
kde-3.5.5 which dropped support for older dbus/hal included in rhel4).

-- Rex



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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kpilot on rhel4, requires pilot-link-0.12
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On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 07:34 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Anthony J. H. M. Meijer wrote:
> >> On Monday 29 January 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> > 
> >>> kpilot requires pilot-link 0.12.
> > ...
> >> So, then the obvious question becomes: how does one get pilot-link 0.12 on 
> >> EL4 ?
> > 
> > You don't.  There are other stuff  in RHEL4 that depends on the existing
> > pilot-link-0.11.  And, I don't think pilot-link-0.11 and 0.12 are
> > parallel-installable either.
> > 
> > Icky poo.
> 
> I forgot too, that FC-6 rolled back to pilot-link-0.11 (from 0.12) due
> to incompatibilities and problems with the previous 0.12 pre-releases.
> That, and because the pilot-link devs are just jerks (see the "Anonymous
> CVS Removed indefinitely" heading on http://www.pilot-link.org/).
> 
> End result, *no* version of RHEL or Fedora Core supports kpilot now.
> *Sigh*.
> 
> /me claps a round of applause for the kde devs who chose to drop support
> for previously working folks using pilot-link < 0.12 (kinda like
> kde-3.5.5 which dropped support for older dbus/hal included in rhel4).
> 
> -- Rex

Pilot-link should DIE DIE DIE!

/me just felt like venting.
- Gilboa





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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kpilot on rhel4, requires pilot-link-0.12
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On Monday 29 January 2007, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 07:34 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Rex Dieter wrote:
> > > Anthony J. H. M. Meijer wrote:
> > >> On Monday 29 January 2007, Allen Winter wrote:
> > >>> kpilot requires pilot-link 0.12.
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > >> So, then the obvious question becomes: how does one get pilot-link
> > >> 0.12 on EL4 ?
> > >
> > > You don't.  There are other stuff  in RHEL4 that depends on the
> > > existing pilot-link-0.11.  And, I don't think pilot-link-0.11 and 0.12
> > > are parallel-installable either.
> > >
> > > Icky poo.
> >
> > I forgot too, that FC-6 rolled back to pilot-link-0.11 (from 0.12) due
> > to incompatibilities and problems with the previous 0.12 pre-releases.
> > That, and because the pilot-link devs are just jerks (see the "Anonymous
> > CVS Removed indefinitely" heading on http://www.pilot-link.org/).
> >
> > End result, *no* version of RHEL or Fedora Core supports kpilot now.
> > *Sigh*.
> >
> > /me claps a round of applause for the kde devs who chose to drop support
> > for previously working folks using pilot-link < 0.12 (kinda like
> > kde-3.5.5 which dropped support for older dbus/hal included in rhel4).
> >
> > -- Rex
>
> Pilot-link should DIE DIE DIE!
>

Perhaps a good name for a new usenet group:

alt.pilot-link.die.die.die

anyone ?

Anthony





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