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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Problem with using yum on RHEL4 (Brian Tang)
2. Re: Problem with using yum on RHEL4 (Rex Dieter)
3. Re: Problem with using yum on RHEL4 (Gilboa Davara)
4. Re: Problem with using yum on RHEL4 (Rex Dieter)
5. Re: Problem with using yum on RHEL4 (Gilboa Davara)
6. Re: Problem with using yum on RHEL4 (Gilboa Davara)
7. Re: Problem with using yum on RHEL4 (Rex Dieter)
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Problem with using yum on RHEL4
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> kdelibs includes:
> Conflicts: kdebase < 6:3.3.90
>
> So that implies your yum setup isn't picking up the newest kdebase-3.5.5. ??
I don't think so - in the first few lines of output, there's this:
Resolving Dependencies
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package kdelibs.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.7.el4.kde set to be updated
---> Downloading header for kdebase to pack into transaction set.
kdebase-3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde 100% |=========================| 553 kB 00:28
---> Package kdebase.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde set to be updated
---> Package qt.x86_64 1:3.3.6-13.4.el4.kde set to be updated
Which looks to me like it's found kdebase 3.5.5 and kdelibs 3.5.5. But the next few lines are:
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: libIlmImf.so.2()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
--> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdebase < 6:3.3.90
--> Processing Dependency: libjasper-1.701.so.1()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
--> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdeartwork < 0:3.3.90
I'm a little bit confused! Thanks for the help!
Brian
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Problem with using yum on RHEL4
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Brian Tang wrote:
>> kdelibs includes:
>> Conflicts: kdebase < 6:3.3.90
>>
>> So that implies your yum setup isn't picking up the newest kdebase-3.5.5. ??
>
> I don't think so - in the first few lines of output, there's this:
>
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
> ---> Package kdelibs.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.7.el4.kde set to be updated
> ---> Downloading header for kdebase to pack into transaction set.
> kdebase-3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde 100% |=========================| 553 kB 00:28
> ---> Package kdebase.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde set to be updated
> ---> Package qt.x86_64 1:3.3.6-13.4.el4.kde set to be updated
>
> Which looks to me like it's found kdebase 3.5.5 and kdelibs 3.5.5. But the next few lines are:
>
> --> Running transaction check
> --> Processing Dependency: libIlmImf.so.2()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
> --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdebase < 6:3.3.90
> --> Processing Dependency: libjasper-1.701.so.1()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
> --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdeartwork < 0:3.3.90
>
> I'm a little bit confused! Thanks for the help!
Ah, multilib rears it's ugly head. You probably have both
kdelibs.x86_64 *and* kdelibs.i386 installed. It would make your life
much simpler if you could:
rpm -e kdelibs.i386
and start over.
Else, you'll likely have to enable the i386 repo for your x86_64 box too.
-- Rex
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Problem with using yum on RHEL4
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On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 07:27 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Brian Tang wrote:
> >> kdelibs includes:
> >> Conflicts: kdebase < 6:3.3.90
> >>
> >> So that implies your yum setup isn't picking up the newest kdebase-3.5.5. ??
> >
> > I don't think so - in the first few lines of output, there's this:
> >
> > Resolving Dependencies
> > --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
> > ---> Package kdelibs.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.7.el4.kde set to be updated
> > ---> Downloading header for kdebase to pack into transaction set.
> > kdebase-3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde 100% |=========================| 553 kB 00:28
> > ---> Package kdebase.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde set to be updated
> > ---> Package qt.x86_64 1:3.3.6-13.4.el4.kde set to be updated
> >
> > Which looks to me like it's found kdebase 3.5.5 and kdelibs 3.5.5. But the next few lines are:
> >
> > --> Running transaction check
> > --> Processing Dependency: libIlmImf.so.2()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
> > --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdebase < 6:3.3.90
> > --> Processing Dependency: libjasper-1.701.so.1()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
> > --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdeartwork < 0:3.3.90
> >
> > I'm a little bit confused! Thanks for the help!
>
> Ah, multilib rears it's ugly head. You probably have both
> kdelibs.x86_64 *and* kdelibs.i386 installed. It would make your life
> much simpler if you could:
> rpm -e kdelibs.i386
> and start over.
>
> Else, you'll likely have to enable the i386 repo for your x86_64 box too.
>
> -- Rex
Rex,
Why not just copy qt, arts, kdelibs, kdebase and kdenetwork from the
i386 repo?
While I'm no great multi-lib fan (IMHO chroot is better), it's enabled
by default, and break when KDERH is enabled.
- Gilboa
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Problem with using yum on RHEL4
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Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 07:27 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
>> Brian Tang wrote:
>>>> kdelibs includes:
>>>> Conflicts: kdebase < 6:3.3.90
>>>>
>>>> So that implies your yum setup isn't picking up the newest kdebase-3.5.5. ??
>>> I don't think so - in the first few lines of output, there's this:
>>>
>>> Resolving Dependencies
>>> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
>>> ---> Package kdelibs.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.7.el4.kde set to be updated
>>> ---> Downloading header for kdebase to pack into transaction set.
>>> kdebase-3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde 100% |=========================| 553 kB 00:28
>>> ---> Package kdebase.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde set to be updated
>>> ---> Package qt.x86_64 1:3.3.6-13.4.el4.kde set to be updated
>>>
>>> Which looks to me like it's found kdebase 3.5.5 and kdelibs 3.5.5. But the next few lines are:
>>>
>>> --> Running transaction check
>>> --> Processing Dependency: libIlmImf.so.2()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
>>> --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdebase < 6:3.3.90
>>> --> Processing Dependency: libjasper-1.701.so.1()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
>>> --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdeartwork < 0:3.3.90
>>>
>>> I'm a little bit confused! Thanks for the help!
>> Ah, multilib rears it's ugly head. You probably have both
>> kdelibs.x86_64 *and* kdelibs.i386 installed. It would make your life
>> much simpler if you could:
>> rpm -e kdelibs.i386
>> and start over.
>>
>> Else, you'll likely have to enable the i386 repo for your x86_64 box too.
>>
>> -- Rex
>
> Rex,
>
> Why not just copy qt, arts, kdelibs, kdebase and kdenetwork from the
> i386 repo?
> While I'm no great multi-lib fan (IMHO chroot is better), it's enabled
> by default, and break when KDERH is enabled.
Yeah, we can add packages x,y,z today, then what extras will be needed
tomorrow, and the next? I see this as a potentially endless cycle.
I may have to think about it a bit more, because as it is, we have no
automated method of copying i386 pkgs into x86_64, and I don't want to
have to rely on manually doing this everytime one of those are updated.
-- Rex
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Problem with using yum on RHEL4
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On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 07:42 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 07:27 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >> Brian Tang wrote:
> >>>> kdelibs includes:
> >>>> Conflicts: kdebase < 6:3.3.90
> >>>>
> >>>> So that implies your yum setup isn't picking up the newest kdebase-3.5.5. ??
> >>> I don't think so - in the first few lines of output, there's this:
> >>>
> >>> Resolving Dependencies
> >>> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
> >>> ---> Package kdelibs.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.7.el4.kde set to be updated
> >>> ---> Downloading header for kdebase to pack into transaction set.
> >>> kdebase-3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde 100% |=========================| 553 kB 00:28
> >>> ---> Package kdebase.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde set to be updated
> >>> ---> Package qt.x86_64 1:3.3.6-13.4.el4.kde set to be updated
> >>>
> >>> Which looks to me like it's found kdebase 3.5.5 and kdelibs 3.5.5. But the next few lines are:
> >>>
> >>> --> Running transaction check
> >>> --> Processing Dependency: libIlmImf.so.2()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
> >>> --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdebase < 6:3.3.90
> >>> --> Processing Dependency: libjasper-1.701.so.1()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
> >>> --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdeartwork < 0:3.3.90
> >>>
> >>> I'm a little bit confused! Thanks for the help!
> >> Ah, multilib rears it's ugly head. You probably have both
> >> kdelibs.x86_64 *and* kdelibs.i386 installed. It would make your life
> >> much simpler if you could:
> >> rpm -e kdelibs.i386
> >> and start over.
> >>
> >> Else, you'll likely have to enable the i386 repo for your x86_64 box too.
> >>
> >> -- Rex
> >
> > Rex,
> >
> > Why not just copy qt, arts, kdelibs, kdebase and kdenetwork from the
> > i386 repo?
> > While I'm no great multi-lib fan (IMHO chroot is better), it's enabled
> > by default, and break when KDERH is enabled.
>
> Yeah, we can add packages x,y,z today, then what extras will be needed
> tomorrow, and the next? I see this as a potentially endless cycle.
>
> I may have to think about it a bit more, because as it is, we have no
> automated method of copying i386 pkgs into x86_64, and I don't want to
> have to rely on manually doing this everytime one of those are updated.
>
> -- Rex
>
OK. Fair enough.
As I said, I find mulit-lib to a hackish solution (at best).
It adds huge disk and network overhead even if you don't need it
(there's no way to disable it during Install), and generates huge amount
of noise to all non-core repositories... Let alone the risk of having
RPM hell everytime you run yum update.
If only Fedora had tools to ease the installation and management of
32bit chroots - It would have made life -much- easier.
- Gilboa
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Problem with using yum on RHEL4
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On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 07:42 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 07:27 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >> Brian Tang wrote:
> >>>> kdelibs includes:
> >>>> Conflicts: kdebase < 6:3.3.90
> >>>>
> >>>> So that implies your yum setup isn't picking up the newest kdebase-3.5.5. ??
> >>> I don't think so - in the first few lines of output, there's this:
> >>>
> >>> Resolving Dependencies
> >>> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
> >>> ---> Package kdelibs.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.7.el4.kde set to be updated
> >>> ---> Downloading header for kdebase to pack into transaction set.
> >>> kdebase-3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde 100% |=========================| 553 kB 00:28
> >>> ---> Package kdebase.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde set to be updated
> >>> ---> Package qt.x86_64 1:3.3.6-13.4.el4.kde set to be updated
> >>>
> >>> Which looks to me like it's found kdebase 3.5.5 and kdelibs 3.5.5. But the next few lines are:
> >>>
> >>> --> Running transaction check
> >>> --> Processing Dependency: libIlmImf.so.2()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
> >>> --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdebase < 6:3.3.90
> >>> --> Processing Dependency: libjasper-1.701.so.1()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
> >>> --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdeartwork < 0:3.3.90
> >>>
> >>> I'm a little bit confused! Thanks for the help!
> >> Ah, multilib rears it's ugly head. You probably have both
> >> kdelibs.x86_64 *and* kdelibs.i386 installed. It would make your life
> >> much simpler if you could:
> >> rpm -e kdelibs.i386
> >> and start over.
> >>
> >> Else, you'll likely have to enable the i386 repo for your x86_64 box too.
> >>
> >> -- Rex
> >
> > Rex,
> >
> > Why not just copy qt, arts, kdelibs, kdebase and kdenetwork from the
> > i386 repo?
> > While I'm no great multi-lib fan (IMHO chroot is better), it's enabled
> > by default, and break when KDERH is enabled.
>
> Yeah, we can add packages x,y,z today, then what extras will be needed
> tomorrow, and the next? I see this as a potentially endless cycle.
>
> I may have to think about it a bit more, because as it is, we have no
> automated method of copying i386 pkgs into x86_64, and I don't want to
> have to rely on manually doing this everytime one of those are updated.
>
> -- Rex
I wonder if enabling the i386 repos would solve this problem?
- Gilboa
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Problem with using yum on RHEL4
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Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 07:42 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 07:27 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > > > Brian Tang wrote:
> > > > > > kdelibs includes:
> > > > > > Conflicts: kdebase < 6:3.3.90
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So that implies your yum setup isn't picking up the newest kdebase-3.5.5. \
> > > > > > ??
> > > > > I don't think so - in the first few lines of output, there's this:
> > > > >
> > > > > Resolving Dependencies
> > > > > --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
> > > > > ---> Package kdelibs.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.7.el4.kde set to be updated
> > > > > ---> Downloading header for kdebase to pack into transaction set.
> > > > > kdebase-3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde 100% |=========================| 553 kB 00:28
> > > > > ---> Package kdebase.x86_64 6:3.5.5-0.9.el4.kde set to be updated
> > > > > ---> Package qt.x86_64 1:3.3.6-13.4.el4.kde set to be updated
> > > > >
> > > > > Which looks to me like it's found kdebase 3.5.5 and kdelibs 3.5.5. But the \
> > > > > next few lines are:
> > > > > --> Running transaction check
> > > > > --> Processing Dependency: libIlmImf.so.2()(64bit) for package: kdelibs
> > > > > --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdebase < 6:3.3.90
> > > > > --> Processing Dependency: libjasper-1.701.so.1()(64bit) for package: \
> > > > > kdelibs
> > > > > --> Processing Conflict: kdelibs conflicts kdeartwork < 0:3.3.90
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm a little bit confused! Thanks for the help!
> > > > Ah, multilib rears it's ugly head. You probably have both
> > > > kdelibs.x86_64 *and* kdelibs.i386 installed. It would make your life
> > > > much simpler if you could:
> > > > rpm -e kdelibs.i386
> > > > and start over.
> > > >
> > > > Else, you'll likely have to enable the i386 repo for your x86_64 box too.
> > > >
> > > > -- Rex
> > > Rex,
> > >
> > > Why not just copy qt, arts, kdelibs, kdebase and kdenetwork from the
> > > i386 repo?
> > > While I'm no great multi-lib fan (IMHO chroot is better), it's enabled
> > > by default, and break when KDERH is enabled.
> > Yeah, we can add packages x,y,z today, then what extras will be needed
> > tomorrow, and the next? I see this as a potentially endless cycle.
> >
> > I may have to think about it a bit more, because as it is, we have no
> > automated method of copying i386 pkgs into x86_64, and I don't want to
> > have to rely on manually doing this everytime one of those are updated.
> I wonder if enabling the i386 repos would solve this problem?
That's been my general multilib suggestion, at least until we come up
with something better anyway.
-- Rex
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