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Today's Topics:

   1. Kopete 0.12.3 cannot connect to ICQ (Sebastian Vahl)
   2. Re: Kopete 0.12.3 cannot connect to ICQ (Rex Dieter)
   3. Re: Kopete 0.12.3 cannot connect to ICQ (Rex Dieter)
   4. [FC5/x86_64] Clean RPM install;	a couple of issues.
      (Gilboa Davara)
   5. Re: [FC5/x86_64] Clean RPM install;	a couple of issues.
      (Gilboa Davara)
   6. Re: [FC5/x86_64] Clean RPM install; a couple of issues.
      (Rex Dieter)
   7. Re: [FC5/x86_64] Clean RPM install;	a couple of	issues.
      (Gilboa Davara)
   8. Re: [FC5/x86_64] Clean RPM install; a couple of issues.
      (Rex Dieter)

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From: Sebastian Vahl <ml@deadbabylon.de>
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Kopete 0.12.3 cannot connect to ICQ
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Hi.
since yesterday kopete 0.12.3 (KDE 3.5.5) cannot connect to ICQ anymore
(perhaps AIM too). The error message is that the UIN is already in use.

Problem is known:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136566 (witch patch to fix)
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213341

kdenetwork-3.5.5-1.fc6

Are you planing to implement the patch?

Greetings,
Sebastian




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Kopete 0.12.3 cannot connect to ICQ
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Sebastian Vahl wrote:
> Hi.
> since yesterday kopete 0.12.3 (KDE 3.5.5) cannot connect to ICQ anymore
> (perhaps AIM too). The error message is that the UIN is already in use.
> 
> Problem is known:
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136566 (witch patch to fix)
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213341
> 
> kdenetwork-3.5.5-1.fc6
> 
> Are you planing to implement the patch?

I will now that I'm aware of it. (:

-- Rex




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Kopete 0.12.3 cannot connect to ICQ
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> Sebastian Vahl wrote:
>> Hi.
>> since yesterday kopete 0.12.3 (KDE 3.5.5) cannot connect to ICQ anymore
>> (perhaps AIM too). The error message is that the UIN is already in use.
>>
>> Problem is known:
>> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136566 (witch patch to fix)
>> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213341
>>
>> kdenetwork-3.5.5-1.fc6
>>
>> Are you planing to implement the patch?
> 
> I will now that I'm aware of it. (:

Patch included in kdenetwork-3.5.5-2 builds

-- Rex




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From: Gilboa Davara <gilboad@gmail.com>
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] [FC5/x86_64] Clean RPM install; a couple of issues.
Message: 4

Hello Rex,

I'm trying to do a clean KDE install on all my workstations.
Here's a couple of issues I see. (That might RPM-hell the machine)
(kde-testing is enabled.)

A. Please add the following i386 RPMs to satisfy multi-lib:
qt.i386
arts.i386
kdelibs.i386
kdebase.i386
kdemultimdia.i386
(I have no idea why yum wants kdemultimedia, but multi-lib was never too
smart to begin with... and its gotten worse with time :()

B. -kderh seems to be missing (or having older) some RPMs:
qt
arts
kdemultimedia 

Is it intentional?

- Gilboa




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On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 18:45 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
>> Blah Blah...

Package list attached.

- Gilboa

["list.txt" (list.txt)]

Installing:
kdeaddons               x86_64     3.5.5-2.fc5      kde               2.5 M
kdeadmin                x86_64     7:3.5.5-1.fc5    kde               2.0 M
kdeartwork-extras       x86_64     3.5.5-2.fc5      kde               197 k
kdeartwork-icons        x86_64     3.5.5-1.fc5      kde                11 M
kdebase                 i386       6:3.5.5-0.1.fc5  updates            29 M
kdebase                 x86_64     6:3.5.5-0.8.fc5  kde                29 M
kdebluetooth            x86_64     1.0-0.17.beta2.fc5  kde               935 k
kdegames                x86_64     6:3.5.5-1.fc5    kde                11 M
kdegraphics             x86_64     7:3.5.5-1.fc5    kde               7.8 M
kdegraphics-extras      x86_64     3.5.5-1.fc5      kde               1.8 M
kdelibs-apidocs         noarch     6:3.5.5-0.6.kde  kde-all            19 M
kdelibs-apidocs         x86_64     6:3.5.5-0.7.fc5  kde                25 k
kdemultimedia           i386       6:3.5.5-0.1.fc5  updates           7.3 M
kdemultimedia           x86_64     6:3.5.5-0.1.fc5  updates           7.5 M
kdemultimedia-extras    x86_64     6:3.5.5-0.1.fc5  kde               803 k
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree  x86_64     6:3.5.5-0.2.fc5  kde-testing       671 k
kdenetwork              x86_64     7:3.5.5-2.fc5    kde                12 M
kdenetwork-nowlistening  x86_64     7:3.5.5-2.fc5    kde                71 k
kdepim                  x86_64     6:3.5.5-0.2.fc5  kde                19 M
kdesdk                  x86_64     3.5.5-0.2.fc5    kde               6.7 M
kdesvn                  x86_64     0.9.2-1.fc5      extras            6.9 M
kdetoys                 x86_64     7:3.5.5-1.fc5    kde               3.0 M
kdetv                   x86_64     0.8.9-4.fc5      extras            1.5 M
kdeutils                x86_64     6:3.5.5-1.fc5    kde               3.9 M
kdevelop                x86_64     9:3.3.5-1.fc5    kde                14 M
kdewebdev               x86_64     6:3.5.5-1.0.fc5  kde               8.7 M
Installing for dependencies:
arts                    x86_64     8:1.5.5-0.1.fc5  updates           1.2 M
arts                    i386       8:1.5.5-0.1.fc5  updates           1.1 M
arts-devel              x86_64     8:1.5.5-0.1.fc5  updates           213 k
avahi-devel             x86_64     0.6.10-1.FC5     updates            36 k
avahi-qt3               x86_64     0.6.10-1.FC5     updates            15 k
kde-config              noarch     3.5-12.fc5       kde               8.6 k
kde-config-kdebase      noarch     3.5-12.fc5       kde                14 k
kde-filesystem          noarch     3.5-5            kde-testing-all    12 k
kdebindings             x86_64     3.5.5-0.1.fc5    updates           5.7 M
kdelibs                 i386       6:3.5.5-0.2.fc5  updates            18 M
kdelibs                 x86_64     6:3.5.5-0.8.fc5  kde                18 M
kdelibs-devel           x86_64     6:3.5.5-0.8.fc5  kde               1.3 M
kdnssd-avahi            x86_64     0.1.3-0.1.20060713svn.fc5  kde                43 k
kdnssd-avahi-devel      x86_64     0.1.3-0.1.20060713svn.fc5  kde                10 k
qt                      x86_64     1:3.3.7-0.1.fc5  updates           3.5 M
qt                      i386       1:3.3.7-0.1.fc5  updates           3.5 M
qt-designer             x86_64     1:3.3.7-0.1.fc5  updates           2.0 M
qt-devel                x86_64     1:3.3.7-0.1.fc5  updates            14 M
zvbi                    x86_64     0.2.22-2.fc5     extras            318 k

Transaction Summary
=============================================================================
Install     45 Package(s)
Update       0 Package(s)
Remove       0 Package(s)
Total download size: 276 M
Is this ok [y/N]:



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Gilboa Davara wrote:
> Hello Rex,
> 
> I'm trying to do a clean KDE install on all my workstations.
> Here's a couple of issues I see. (That might RPM-hell the machine)
> (kde-testing is enabled.)
> 
> A. Please add the following i386 RPMs to satisfy multi-lib:
> qt.i386
> arts.i386
> kdelibs.i386
> kdebase.i386
> kdemultimdia.i386
> (I have no idea why yum wants kdemultimedia, but multi-lib was never too
> smart to begin with... and its gotten worse with time :()

Why?

you're not just doing
yum install kdelibs
instead of
yum install kdelibs.x86_64
are you?

> B. -kderh seems to be missing (or having older) some RPMs:
> qt
> arts
> kdemultimedia 
> 
> Is it intentional?

For qt, yes, the others should be the latest kde-3.5.5 versions.

-- Rex




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On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 10:48 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > Hello Rex,
> > 
> > I'm trying to do a clean KDE install on all my workstations.
> > Here's a couple of issues I see. (That might RPM-hell the machine)
> > (kde-testing is enabled.)
> > 
> > A. Please add the following i386 RPMs to satisfy multi-lib:
> > qt.i386
> > arts.i386
> > kdelibs.i386
> > kdebase.i386
> > kdemultimdia.i386
> > (I have no idea why yum wants kdemultimedia, but multi-lib was never too
> > smart to begin with... and its gotten worse with time :()
> 
> Why?

Multi-lib is stupid. Unless I exclude the offending packages in yum's
own configuration, it will download the -updates version that next time
I install anything remotely -kde, and will download the wrong RPM
(versions) from -updates.
Other then that, several applications (such as wine; more in FC6)
require qt and arts. (I'll add kdelibs just to be safe).

BTW, FC6 is even worse, it has an i386 packages each and every single
x86_64 library (-devel's included)

> 
> you're not just doing
> yum install kdelibs
> instead of
> yum install kdelibs.x86_64
> are you?

yum install kdexxx kdexxx kdexxx. 
I may need to run i386 applications (qt/arts based) so I cannot disable
multi-lib completely.

> 
> > B. -kderh seems to be missing (or having older) some RPMs:
> > qt
> > arts
> > kdemultimedia 
> > 
> > Is it intentional?
> 
> For qt, yes, the others should be the latest kde-3.5.5 versions.
> 
> -- Rex

In both cases (arts, kdemultimedia) kderh carries the same version as
the -updates ones (and yum defaults to -updates).
Any chance of blowing my machine to small pieces on this one?
(I'm using, gaaah, gnome for that last 2 days!)

- Gilboa





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Gilboa Davara wrote:

>> For qt, yes, the others should be the latest kde-3.5.5 versions.
>>
>> -- Rex
> 
> In both cases (arts, kdemultimedia) kderh carries the same version as
> the -updates ones (and yum defaults to -updates).

Not from what I see:
kdemultimedia: kderh = 3.5.5-0.2%dist.kde, core = 3.5.5-0.1%dist
arts: kderh = 1.5.5-0.1%dist.kde, core 1.5.5-0.1%dist

In both cases, our pkgs should win.  Wait, for some reason, the 
fc5/x86_64 and fc6/x86_64 failed to put .kde on the end.  Rats.

Doesn't matter too much, kderh and core arts/kdemultimedia pkgs should 
be virtually identical at this point.  (I'll go check for sure).

-- Rex



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