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Today's Topics:
1. kde-redhap repos problem? (Claude Jones)
2. Re: kde-redhap repos problem? (Rex Dieter)
3. Re: Serious Lag from time to time (Tim Wunder)
4. superkaramba fedora core 4? (Patrick Steiner)
5. Re: Re: Upgradeing FC3 to FC4, missing dep (Thomas Chiverton)
6. Re: superkaramba fedora core 4? (Rex Dieter)
7. Missing FC4 dep. (amarok) (Thomas Chiverton)
8. Re: kde-redhap repos problem? (Claude Jones)
9. Re: Missing FC4 dep. (amarok) (Rex Dieter)
10. Re: Missing FC4 dep. (amarok) (Thomas Chiverton)
11. Re: Missing FC4 dep. (amarok) FIXED (Thomas Chiverton)
12. building amarok (Patrick Steiner)
13. Re: building amarok (Rex Dieter)
14. Re: Missing FC4 dep. (amarok) (Rex Dieter)
15. Re: Serious Lag from time to time (Keith T. Garner)
16. Re: Serious Lag from time to time (Rex Dieter)
17. Re: Serious Lag from time to time (Sharon Kimble)
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From: Claude Jones <claude_jones@levitjames.com>
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I've been out of town and just tried to update some things and got:
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
livna 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
updates-released 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: kde-redhat-stable-all
Did something change? Do I need to update my repo definitions? I'm running FC4
on this machine.
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Claude Jones wrote:
> I've been out of town and just tried to update some things and got:
>
> Setting up Install Process
> Setting up repositories
> livna 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> updates-released 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: kde-redhat-stable-all
>
> Did something change? Do I need to update my repo definitions? I'm running FC4
> on this machine.
WORKSFORME on my FC4 box.
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From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:41:02 -0400
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On Wednesday 29 June 2005 10:09 pm, someone claiming to be Rex Dieter wrote:
> Tim Wunder wrote:
> > Isn't syslogd the system log daemon? Is that a good thing to disable?
>
> IMO, no, syslogd should *never* be turned off. If it's logging is
> slowing your system down, find the *source* of that logging, not turn
> off logging altogether.
>
Oh, I certainly agree with you there. I have no plans to disable syslogd, and
I wouldn't recommend it as a suitable course of action for addressing system
response time. But, to each his own.
Regards,
Tim
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] superkaramba fedora core 4?
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why is superkaramba not available for fc4.
or can i only dont find it on your repo?
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From: Thomas Chiverton <thomas.chiverton@bluefinger.com>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Re: Upgradeing FC3 to FC4, missing dep
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On Wednesday 29 June 2005 14:24, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Yep.
> points at shiny new FC4 w/kde-redhat :-)
Two small things other people might run into.
1) KDE styles were messed up - go into preferences and re-apply.
2) Amarok moaned about plugins until I ran gst-register (as it told me to do).
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Patrick Steiner wrote:
> why is superkaramba not available for fc4.
> or can i only dont find it on your repo?
It's a new(ish) version(0.36), in the 'testing' section.
superkaramba-0.35 which is in stable for all other distro/releases
doesn't build on fc4.
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# yum install amarok-gstreamer
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
livna 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
updates-released 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
kde-redhat-stable-all 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
kde-redhat-stable 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
kde-redhat-testing 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
updates-testing 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
extras 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
kde-redhat-testing-all 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
base 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package amarok-gstreamer.i386 0:1.2.4-1.1.fc4.kde set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: amarok = 0:1.2.4-1.1.fc4.kde for package:
amarok-gstreamer
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: amarok = 0:1.2.4-1.1.fc4.kde is needed by package
amarok-gstreamer
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On Wednesday 29 June 2005 23:39, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Did something change? Do I need to update my repo definitions? I'm
> > running FC4 on this machine.
>
> WORKSFORME on my FC4 box.
>
Violated my cardinal rule - when encountering a yum problem, wait a while...
I got past the kde-redhat repos on a followup try, but then stalled on
another repo. Looks like the big thunderstorm that went through awhile ago is
dragging my wireless internet connection down - everything is real slow.
Sorry for the hasty false alarm.
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Thomas Chiverton wrote:
> # yum install amarok-gstreamer
> Setting up Install Process
> Setting up repositories
> livna 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> updates-released 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> kde-redhat-stable-all 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> kde-redhat-stable 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> kde-redhat-testing 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> updates-testing 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> extras 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
> kde-redhat-testing-all 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> base 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
> Reading repository metadata in from local files
> Parsing package install arguments
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
> ---> Package amarok-gstreamer.i386 0:1.2.4-1.1.fc4.kde set to be updated
> --> Running transaction check
> --> Processing Dependency: amarok = 0:1.2.4-1.1.fc4.kde for package:
> amarok-gstreamer
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Missing Dependency: amarok = 0:1.2.4-1.1.fc4.kde is needed by package
> amarok-gstreamer
Ah, it appears Fedora Extras has amarok too, and they package it
differently than we do. We make arts the default plugin, with -gstreamer
packaged separately. Fedora Extras makes gstreamer the default plugin,
with -arts packaged separately. *Sigh* I suppose we should follow suit.
For now, to upgrade to Fedora Extras' version, simply
rpm -e amarok-gstreamer
-- Rex
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On Thursday 30 June 2005 13:01, Rex Dieter wrote:
> packaged separately. Fedora Extras makes gstreamer the default plugin,
> with -arts packaged separately. *Sigh* I suppose we should follow suit.
>
> For now, to upgrade to Fedora Extras' version, simply
> rpm -e amarok-gstreamer
That complains about 'no output plugin configured' if I use the gstreamer
engine (which cross fades). Using the xine engine is OK, but not cross
fade :-(
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On Thursday 30 June 2005 13:25, I said:
> That complains about 'no output plugin configured' if I use the gstreamer
> engine (which cross fades). Using the xine engine is OK, but not cross
> fade :-(
installed 'gstreamer-plugins' and all is now better, can pick artsdsink as
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i tryed to build amarok from sources (svn) but i always get the error,
that my gcc (fedora core 4, gcc4) is blacklistet.
how have you compiled amarok?
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:45:28 -0500 (CDT)
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Patrick Steiner wrote:
> i tryed to build amarok from sources (svn) but i always get the error, that
> my gcc (fedora core 4, gcc4) is blacklistet.
...
> how have you compiled amarok?
By patching out the gcc4 blacklist. Both we (kde-redhat) and
Fedora Extras have amarok packaged:
Ours is at
http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/all/SRPMS.stable/
Fedora Extras:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Ah, it appears Fedora Extras has amarok too, and they package it differently
> than we do. We make arts the default plugin, with -gstreamer packaged
> separately. Fedora Extras makes gstreamer the default plugin, with -arts
> packaged separately. *Sigh* I suppose we should follow suit.
FYI, see bugzilla Request to drop -arts/-akode amarok subpkgs:
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/162157
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On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:09:02, Rex Dieter said:
> Tim Wunder wrote:
> > Isn't syslogd the system log daemon? Is that a good thing to disable?
>
> IMO, no, syslogd should *never* be turned off. If it's logging is
> slowing your system down, find the *source* of that logging, not turn
> off logging altogether.
I'm with Rex on this one.
Another thing to note is that syslogd on linux (well, on Fedora) does
a fsync() after every log line. This is great idea for a server,
however, on a desktop its probably not a great idea. A way to disable
the fsync() is to go into /etc/syslog.conf and put a - before each
file name, so you have lines that look like this:
mail.* -/var/log/maillog
This is one of the first enhancements I do on my laptop. It helps out
on the desktop as well.
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Keith T. Garner wrote:
> Another thing to note is that syslogd on linux (well, on Fedora) does
> a fsync() after every log line. This is great idea for a server,
> however, on a desktop its probably not a great idea. A way to disable
> the fsync() is to go into /etc/syslog.conf and put a - before each
> file name, so you have lines that look like this:
> mail.* -/var/log/maillog
Hey, pretty cool, Learn something new every day...
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On Thursday 30 Jun 2005 15:11, Keith T. Garner wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:09:02, Rex Dieter said:
> > Tim Wunder wrote:
> > > Isn't syslogd the system log daemon? Is that a good thing to disable?
> >
> > IMO, no, syslogd should *never* be turned off. If it's logging is
> > slowing your system down, find the *source* of that logging, not turn
> > off logging altogether.
>
> I'm with Rex on this one.
>
> Another thing to note is that syslogd on linux (well, on Fedora) does
> a fsync() after every log line. This is great idea for a server,
> however, on a desktop its probably not a great idea. A way to disable
> the fsync() is to go into /etc/syslog.conf and put a - before each
> file name, so you have lines that look like this:
> mail.* -/var/log/maillog
>
Thanks for this Keith, it does appear to speed things up slightly, so far at
least. Just one thing that I'm not sure about [even though I increased the
print size in your email] is it a 'minus' or a 'tilde' please [i.e. - or ~] ?
I'm still not sure, although I used a minus.
And when I checked, my mail.* -/var/log/maillog was
already like that seemingly as the default!
Sharon.
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