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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Re: kaffeine not in K menu nor file associations (Christopher J. Bottaro)
2. Re: kde desktop blacks out (Claude Jones)
3. Re: kde desktop blacks out (Jose' Matos)
4. Re: CentOS 3.4 / yum -> pspell confusion???? (Thomas Chiverton)
5. Re: OFFTOPIC: GPL: src.rpm's required? yes or no? (Jeff Pitman)
6. Re: OFFTOPIC: GPL: src.rpm's required? yes or
no? (Rex Dieter)
7. Re: CentOS 3.4 / yum -> pspell confusion???? (Rex Dieter)
8. Re: OFFTOPIC: GPL: src.rpm's required? yes or no? (Jeff Pitman)
9. Re: kde desktop blacks out (Kevin DeKorte)
10. Re: OFFTOPIC: GPL: src.rpm's required? yes or
no? (Tim Wunder)
11. Re: port X11 listening (hicham)
12. Re: port X11 listening (Rex Dieter)
13. Re: port X11 listening (hicham)
14. Re: port X11 listening (Roberto Alsina)
15. Re: CentOS 3.4 / yum -> pspell confusion???? (Ken Godee)
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From: "Christopher J. Bottaro" <cjbottaro@alumni.cs.utexas.edu>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:55:34 -0500
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2005, Christopher J. Bottaro wrote:
>
> > Rex Dieter wrote:
> >
> > > Christopher J. Bottaro wrote:
> > > > I did a "yum update" recently and after the new kaffeine was installed,
> > > > it
> > > > is no longer in my K menu under "sound and video". It is also missing
> > > > in
> > > > Konq's "file associations" settings. How do I remedy this? Thank you.
> > >
> > > rpm -q kaffeine
> > > (or give a hint which redhat/fedora release you're using)
> >
> > FC3. Thanks.
>
> $ rpm -q kaffeine
> kaffeine-0.6-1.0.3.kde
Same here:
[cjb@semaphore ~]$ rpm -q kaffeine
kaffeine-0.6-1.0.3.kde
> Shows up for me under Sound&Video:
> Kaffeine (Media Player).
I even did a "yum erase kaffeine", then a "yum install kaffeine-mozilla".
Still no joy. Arg, is some config file somewhere, I know it.
Blasting .kde is such a hassle though...=/
> -- Rex
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From: Claude Jones <claude_jones@levitjames.com>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde desktop blacks out
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:46:20 -0400
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On Mon May 16 2005 10:35 pm, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
> Claude,
>
> Checkout this thread...
>
> http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t3812435
>
> It was very helpful for me
>
Kevin: Thanks for that lead. I've installed 2.6.11-1.20_FC3 and the ATI rpms.
For now, all is well - I don't want to get overconfident yet - this box ran
all day just fine, and then starting going crazy this evening. But these
files seem to be addressed to this very issue.
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From: "Jose' Matos" <jamatos@fc.up.pt>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde desktop blacks out
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On Tuesday 17 May 2005 03:00, Claude Jones wrote:
> I'm curious - where are people getting this new kernel? Is this a testing
> or unstable? I do regular yum updates, but this one hasn't appeared.
From FC3 testing updates repository. :-)
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] CentOS 3.4 / yum -> pspell confusion????
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On Monday 16 May 2005 05:50, Ken Godee wrote:
> Any ideas????
Who provides your pspell (rpm -qi pspell) ?
Can you force an uninstall of it with rpm, and then install pspell-devel with
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] OFFTOPIC: GPL: src.rpm's required? yes or no?
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:04:13 +0800
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On Tuesday 17 May 2005 04:32, Rex Dieter wrote:
> ...
> installation of the executable.
> ...
Bold this. You're not crazy. Spec files should really be licensed the
same way the package it's wrapping. Out of curiosity, who are you
having issues with? livna? ;)
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Jeff Pitman wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 May 2005 04:32, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
> > ...
> > installation of the executable.
> > ...
> Bold this. You're not crazy. Spec files should really be licensed the
> same way the package it's wrapping. Out of curiosity, who are you
> having issues with? livna? ;)
http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-May/050842.html
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Thomas Chiverton wrote:
> On Monday 16 May 2005 05:50, Ken Godee wrote:
>
> > Any ideas????
> Who provides your pspell (rpm -qi pspell) ?
> Can you force an uninstall of it with rpm, and then install pspell-devel with
> yum ?
Actually, it's pspell-devel that's causing the problem, since pspell012
Obsoletes: pspell. Nobody Obsoletes: pspell-devel.
rpm -e pspell-devel
ought to do the trick.
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] OFFTOPIC: GPL: src.rpm's required? yes or no?
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On Tuesday 17 May 2005 18:10, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Jeff Pitman wrote:
> > On Tuesday 17 May 2005 04:32, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > > ...
> > > installation of the executable.
> > > ...
> >
> > Bold this. You're not crazy. Spec files should really be licensed
> > the same way the package it's wrapping. Out of curiosity, who are
> > you having issues with? livna? ;);)
>
> http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-May/050842.html
"What we have here is a failure to communicate."
Start with -- "Can we download the spec file?"
Try to get a clear cut yes or no answer out of them before delving into
the GPL. If they say no, start with asking why.
Then if they are belligerent about it, point out that scripts dealing
with installation of the executable also need to be open sourced and
that Spec files are the master script. If they don't agree, go ask the
FSF for their opinion. Don't let anyone else interpret what VNC
should or should not do. Especially when their email originates out of
Sun.
take care,
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On Monday 16 May 2005 11:46 pm, Claude Jones wrote:
> On Mon May 16 2005 10:35 pm, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
> > Claude,
> >
> > Checkout this thread...
> >
> > http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33812435
> >
> > It was very helpful for me
>
> Kevin: Thanks for that lead. I've installed 2.6.11-1.20_FC3 and the ATI
> rpms. For now, all is well - I don't want to get overconfident yet - this
> box ran all day just fine, and then starting going crazy this evening. But
> these files seem to be addressed to this very issue.
Claude, something else you may want to check, it may not apply to you since
this is mainly a tip for laptop users. But I had BIOS screen blanking enabled
on a laptop once and when the BIOS blanked the screen I would have to reboot
to get the machine back. Disabling BIOS screen blanking solved that problem.
Kevin
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On 5/17/2005 6:58 AM, I believe that Jeff Pitman wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 May 2005 18:10, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
> > Jeff Pitman wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday 17 May 2005 04:32, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...
> > > > installation of the executable.
> > > > ...
> > >
> > > Bold this. You're not crazy. Spec files should really be licensed
> > > the same way the package it's wrapping. Out of curiosity, who are
> > > you having issues with? livna? ;);)
> >
> > http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-May/050842.html
>
>
> "What we have here is a failure to communicate."
>
> Start with -- "Can we download the spec file?"
>
> Try to get a clear cut yes or no answer out of them before delving into
> the GPL. If they say no, start with asking why.
>
> Then if they are belligerent about it, point out that scripts dealing
> with installation of the executable also need to be open sourced and
> that Spec files are the master script. If they don't agree, go ask the
> FSF for their opinion. Don't let anyone else interpret what VNC
> should or should not do. Especially when their email originates out of
> Sun.
>
IMO, Rex should ask specific assistance for the issue he's having
compiling the software from the .spec file he's currently using. Provide
the RealVNC folks with the details of the .spec file used to compile it,
and the specific problems. Address the problem and stop arguing about
whether the .spec file,or the src.rpm should've been released by RealVNC
or not.
According to the message referenced above, the issues are:
(1) When built against XFree86-4.3, it fails to build the vnc.so X
loadable module. When built against xorg-x11-6.8.1, the vnc.so loadable
module builds, but crashes X when logging in as non-root.
(2) Unfortunately, RealVNC's binary rpm cannot be installed on my
xorg-x11-6.8.1 system due to it's linkage against a very old libstdc++.so
Address those issues as a technical question on a new thread and lay off
the spec file/no spec file GPL argument.
Again, just my opinion...
Regards,
Tim
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From: hicham <hichamlinux@yahoo.fr>
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--- Rex Dieter <rdieter1@unl.edu> a écrit:
> hicham wrote:
>
> > since I've made update in kde-redhat, I get a X11
> port
> > listening
> > Does anybody know how to get this port off ?
>
> What port is it?
>
> 'lsof' will also tell which process is listening on
> the port.
lsof -i gives me :
X 3633 root 1u IPv4 7564 TCP
*:x11 (LISTEN)
thanks for your help
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hicham wrote:
> --- Rex Dieter <rdieter1@unl.edu> a écrit:
>
> > hicham wrote:
> >
> >
> > > since I've made update in kde-redhat, I get a X11
> > > port listening Does anybody know how to get this port off ?
> >
> > What port is it?
> >
> > 'lsof' will also tell which process is listening on
> > the port.
>
>
> lsof -i gives me :
> X 3633 root 1u IPv4 7564 TCP
> *:x11 (LISTEN)
That's X, not kde.
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--- Rex Dieter <rdieter1@unl.edu> a écrit:
> hicham wrote:
> > --- Rex Dieter <rdieter1@unl.edu> a écrit:
> >
> > > hicham wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > since I've made update in kde-redhat, I get a X11
> > > > port listening Does anybody know how to get this
> port off ?
> > >
> > > What port is it?
> > >
> > > 'lsof' will also tell which process is listening
> on
> > > the port.
> >
> >
> > lsof -i gives me :
> > X 3633 root 1u IPv4 7564 TCP
> > *:x11 (LISTEN)
>
> That's X, not kde.
ok it's X not kde
how do I get rid of that?
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Run X with the -nolisten option.
>
> --- Rex Dieter <rdieter1@unl.edu> a écrit:
> > hicham wrote:
> > > --- Rex Dieter <rdieter1@unl.edu> a écrit:
> > >
> > > > hicham wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > since I've made update in kde-redhat, I get a X11
> > > > > port listening Does anybody know how to get this
> > port off ?
> > > >
> > > > What port is it?
> > > >
> > > > 'lsof' will also tell which process is listening
> > on
> > > > the port.
> > >
> > >
> > > lsof -i gives me :
> > > X 3633 root 1u IPv4 7564 TCP
> > > *:x11 (LISTEN)
> >
> > That's X, not kde.
> ok it's X not kde
> how do I get rid of that?
>
>
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Thanks, that's exactly what I ended up
doing, "yum remove pspell-devel" and
then did a yum install ....
After a long list of deps and
installs all is working.
Thanks for the great work
on this project.
I'm a big PyQt fan and that's
what attracked me here in the
first place, but now I have more
then I even wanted, very complete
and very cool!
Ken
Rex Dieter wrote:
> Thomas Chiverton wrote:
>
> > On Monday 16 May 2005 05:50, Ken Godee wrote:
> >
> > > Any ideas????
>
>
> > Who provides your pspell (rpm -qi pspell) ?
> > Can you force an uninstall of it with rpm, and then install
> > pspell-devel with yum ?
>
>
> Actually, it's pspell-devel that's causing the problem, since pspell012
> Obsoletes: pspell. Nobody Obsoletes: pspell-devel.
>
> rpm -e pspell-devel
>
> ought to do the trick.
>
> -- Rex
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