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Subject:    [kde-promo] Fwd: Re: [KDE-EDU]: Server down
From:       Karl-Heinz Zimmer <khz () kde ! org>
Date:       2001-07-27 16:50:45
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Hi,

below you find a posting I reveived through the kde-edu list
and my (maybe unpolite) reply to it and the reply of Bernd
to my reply - telling the 'horrible truth'.  :-)

Come to think of it I am not sure if the current solution
is the way things /should/ be done: I just cannot understand
that such problems seem to depend from people not having
access to the server room during weekends.

Now three questions come to my mind:

*  Is there any way to garantee a better reaction on such
   failures in the future?

*  Are there any alternatives to having the lists hosted
   by Red Hat?

*  Could anybody please try to estimate the monthly costs
   of running a reliable server for dot.kde.org, zine.kde.org,
   edu.kde.org and usability.kde.org (so I could find out
   whether I can afford the money to host them privately
   myself)?

Ciao,
Karl-Heinz

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Subject: Re: [KDE-EDU]: Server down
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:29:02 +0200
From: Karl-Heinz Zimmer <khz@kde.org>
To: kde-edu@kde.org, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer <bero@redhat.de>


On Friday 27 July 2001 05:30 pm, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:
> Subject says it all - the server hosting dot.kde.org, zine.kde.org,
> edu.kde.org and usability.kde.org is currently down.
> Since I don't have a key to the server room and the people
> who do have already left, it won't be fixed before Monday
> morning. :(

Those persons do *not* have a telephone???

You are sure, none of these persons would regard the failure
important and frustrating enough to THANK you for informing
them and would come over to the company to solve the problem???

I do not know anything about Red Hat internals but I am sure you
are wrong: in my (not so humble) opinion you should make a respective
phone call right NOW.

Thank you for thinking about my proposal.

Karl-Heinz
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Subject: Re: [KDE-EDU]: Server down
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:41:55 +0200 (CEST)
From: Bernhard Rosenkraenzer <bero@redhat.de>
To: Karl-Heinz Zimmer <khz@kde.org>
Cc: <kde-edu@kde.org>


On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
> Those persons do *not* have a telephone???

Yes, but they won't get to the office just because my personal machine
went down.

> You are sure, none of these persons would regard the failure
> important and frustrating enough to THANK you for informing
> them and would come over to the company to solve the problem???

No. This is not an official machine, the idea is that its maintainers
(myself and Florian Brand, neither of us has a key to the server room)
can do with it whatever we want (except, maybe, hosting redhat-sucks.org
or mirroring microsoft.com ;) ) but nobody else can be bothered to do
anything about it (except rebooting it if they happen to be there).

LLaP
bero
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Karl-Heinz Zimmer    Senior Software Engineer    Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB
<mailto:khz@klaralvdalens-datakonsult.se>                <mailto:khz@kde.org>

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