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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: GCompris Video 3
From:       Paul Brown <paul.brown () kde ! org>
Date:       2024-03-30 17:58:01
Message-ID: 6034030.lOV4Wx5bFT () tyrell
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On Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:56:30 CET frances.tait wrote:
> Hello Paul,

Hello Frances,

> I'm delighted to say we are able to offer you the GCompris videos to post on
> your own channels after all,

Great! Please note we have no real incentive to post KDAB's videos, beyond 
helping KDAB reach a bigger audience!

> and apologise for the hiatus while we sorted
> this out internally.

That's fine. I understand how different departments may see things from different 
perspectives and things need sussing out.

> At some point soon I will give you the link to the latest video like we did
> last time, and look forward to seeing it on peer tube as well as YT.

Me too.

> As for your other points below (about us having an account there and a few
> other things), we didn't have time to address that yet, but will consider.
> 
> In the meantime, have a great Easter break!

Thanks! You too.

Cheers

Paul

> All the best,
> 
> Frances
> 
> > On 25 Mar 2024, at 12:51, Paul Brown <paul.brown@kde.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Monday, 25 March 2024 10:35:47 CET frances.tait wrote:
> >> Hi Paul,
> >> 
> >> Thanks for your understanding. I will nonetheless run it by my folks
> >> again
> >> to see if ‘both' is OK.
> >> 
> >> Just to be clear, as I understand it, we didn't fear folk would switch
> >> from
> >> YouTube to PeerTube, rather I think the hope was the other way around:
> >> that
> >> KDE folk would watch it on Youtube instead of PeerTube, so we'd get the
> >> extra views, as it's unlikely PeerTube users would also watch it on
> >> Youtube.
> > 
> > That is correct. That said, audiences on PT are significantly smaller than
> > on YT and, as I explain below, you will not move the needle in any
> > significant way regardless of your decision.
> > 
> >> What's your thoughts on that? Do you think we exclude folk from seeing it
> >> by sticking to YouTube?
> > 
> > Definitely. There are whole swathes of the Free Software Internet where
> > links to YouTube are banned. And then there are the members of the public
> > who will not watch YT out of principle, because of the invasion of
> > privacy, the annoying ads, the terrible community, etc.
> > 
> > The way to reach that kind of audience is through platforms like PeerTube.
> > 
> > Conversely, people who follow you on YT are not suddenly going to jump to 
> > PT just because you post there too. They are on YT because of inertia,
> > convenience, they follow more things, they have their own channels, it is
> > what they know, etc.
> > 
> > The idea that just because you post to PeerTube, you are suddenly going to
> > lose views on YT is not based on reality and not based on evidence either,
> > mainly because there is none.
> > 
> > I can say that posting to PeerTube is probably a smart PR move if you want
> > to ingratiate yourself with Free Software community members. Other
> > communities don't care and will be fine with YT, but posting to PT shows
> > awareness for the principles of many users and developers. It is a bit
> > like adding vegan options to food served at an office party, or
> > respecting other people's pronouns.
> > 
> > You already have a KDAB Mastodon account, the next step is to have a PT
> > account and link both. (By the way, your KDAB Mastodon account is not
> > verified. You should look into that).
> > 
> > As mentioned some time ago, I can set you up with a channel on the
> > KDE-and-
> > friends instance at  https://tube.kockatoo.org . I can make it look
> > similar to what you have on YT and make it so it virtually manages
> > itself, as anything you post to YT will automatically be replicated on PT
> > without human intervention.
> > 
> > I can then hand you the keys and you do your thing and see insights on
> > each
> > video if you need it. Insights are not as comprehensive as on YT, but are
> > probably enough for most needs (see attached screenshot).
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> >>> On 22 Mar 2024, at 19:58, Paul Brown <paul.brown@kde.org> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Our original idea was to be able to give you coverage on YT _AND_
> >>> PeerTube,
> >>> adding coverage, not subtracting from it. Since it is highly unlikely
> >>> that
> >>> YouTube viewers will go out of the way to go to PeerTube to watch your
> >>> videos we were not expecting this to affect negatively your viewing
> >>> numbers -- and indeed it wouldn't have.
> >> 
> >> ----
> >> 
> >> Frances Tait | frances.tait@kdab.com | Marketing and Partner relations
> >> Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company
> >> Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA +1-866-777-KDAB(5322)
> >> KDAB - Trusted Software Excellence
> 
> ----
> 
> Frances Tait | frances.tait@kdab.com | Marketing and Partner relations
> Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company
> Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA +1-866-777-KDAB(5322)
> KDAB - Trusted Software Excellence


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