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Subject: Re: GCompris Video 3
From: "frances.tait" <frances.tait () kdab ! com>
Date: 2024-03-28 14:56:30
Message-ID: 033B53CC-B3A8-4A83-B951-5395A0EFD5AF () kdab ! com
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Hello Paul,
I'm delighted to say we are able to offer you the GCompris videos to post on your own \
channels after all, and apologise for the hiatus while we sorted this out internally. \
At some point soon I will give you the link to the latest video like we did last \
time, and look forward to seeing it on peer tube as well as YT.
As for your other points below (about us having an account there and a few other \
things), we didn't have time to address that yet, but will consider.
In the meantime, have a great Easter break!
All the best,
Frances
> On 25 Mar 2024, at 12:51, Paul Brown <paul.brown@kde.org> wrote:
>
> On Monday, 25 March 2024 10:35:47 CET frances.tait wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > Thanks for your understanding. I will nonetheless run it by my folks again
> > to see if ‘both' is OK.
> >
> > Just to be clear, as I understand it, we didn't fear folk would switch from
> > YouTube to PeerTube, rather I think the hope was the other way around: that
> > KDE folk would watch it on Youtube instead of PeerTube, so we'd get the
> > extra views, as it's unlikely PeerTube users would also watch it on
> > Youtube.
>
> That is correct. That said, audiences on PT are significantly smaller than on
> YT and, as I explain below, you will not move the needle in any significant way
> regardless of your decision.
>
> > What's your thoughts on that? Do you think we exclude folk from seeing it by
> > sticking to YouTube?
>
> Definitely. There are whole swathes of the Free Software Internet where links
> to YouTube are banned. And then there are the members of the public who will
> not watch YT out of principle, because of the invasion of privacy, the
> annoying ads, the terrible community, etc.
>
> The way to reach that kind of audience is through platforms like PeerTube.
>
> Conversely, people who follow you on YT are not suddenly going to jump to PT
> just because you post there too. They are on YT because of inertia,
> convenience, they follow more things, they have their own channels, it is what
> they know, etc.
>
> The idea that just because you post to PeerTube, you are suddenly going to
> lose views on YT is not based on reality and not based on evidence either,
> mainly because there is none.
>
> I can say that posting to PeerTube is probably a smart PR move if you want to
> ingratiate yourself with Free Software community members. Other communities
> don't care and will be fine with YT, but posting to PT shows awareness for the
> principles of many users and developers. It is a bit like adding vegan options
> to food served at an office party, or respecting other people's pronouns.
>
> You already have a KDAB Mastodon account, the next step is to have a PT
> account and link both. (By the way, your KDAB Mastodon account is not verified.
> You should look into that).
>
> As mentioned some time ago, I can set you up with a channel on the KDE-and-
> friends instance at https://tube.kockatoo.org . I can make it look similar to
> what you have on YT and make it so it virtually manages itself, as anything
> you post to YT will automatically be replicated on PT without human
> intervention.
>
> I can then hand you the keys and you do your thing and see insights on each
> video if you need it. Insights are not as comprehensive as on YT, but are
> probably enough for most needs (see attached screenshot).
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> > > On 22 Mar 2024, at 19:58, Paul Brown <paul.brown@kde.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Our original idea was to be able to give you coverage on YT _AND_
> > > PeerTube,
> > > adding coverage, not subtracting from it. Since it is highly unlikely that
> > > YouTube viewers will go out of the way to go to PeerTube to watch your
> > > videos we were not expecting this to affect negatively your viewing
> > > numbers -- and indeed it wouldn't have.
> >
> > ----
> >
> > Frances Tait | frances.tait@kdab.com | Marketing and Partner relations
> > Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company
> > Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA +1-866-777-KDAB(5322)
> > KDAB - Trusted Software Excellence
>
>
> --
> Promotion & Communication
>
> www: https://kde.org
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Frances Tait | frances.tait@kdab.com | Marketing and Partner relations
Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company
Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA +1-866-777-KDAB(5322)
KDAB - Trusted Software Excellence
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space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hello Paul,<div><br></div><div>I'm delighted \
to say we are able to offer you the GCompris videos to post on your own channels \
after all, and apologise for the hiatus while we sorted this out \
internally. </div><div><br></div><div>At some point soon I will give you the \
link to the latest video like we did last time, and look forward to seeing it on peer \
tube as well as YT. </div><div><br></div><div>As for your other points below \
(about us having an account there and a few other things), we didn't have time to \
address that yet, but will consider.</div><div><br></div><div>In the meantime, have a \
great Easter break!</div><div><br></div><div>All the \
best,</div><div><br></div><div>Frances<br \
id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 25 Mar \
2024, at 12:51, Paul Brown <paul.brown@kde.org> wrote:</div><br \
class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>On Monday, 25 March 2024 10:35:47 CET \
frances.tait wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Hi Paul,<br><br>Thanks for your \
understanding. I will nonetheless run it by my folks again<br>to see if ‘both' is \
OK.<br><br>Just to be clear, as I understand it, we didn't fear folk would switch \
from<br>YouTube to PeerTube, rather I think the hope was the other way around: \
that<br>KDE folk would watch it on Youtube instead of PeerTube, so we'd get \
the<br>extra views, as it's unlikely PeerTube users would also watch it \
on<br>Youtube.<br></blockquote><br>That is correct. That said, audiences on PT are \
significantly smaller than on <br>YT and, as I explain below, you will not move the \
needle in any significant way <br>regardless of your decision.<br><br><blockquote \
type="cite">What's your thoughts on that? Do you think we exclude folk from seeing it \
by<br>sticking to YouTube?<br></blockquote><br>Definitely. There are whole swathes of \
the Free Software Internet where links <br>to YouTube are banned. And then there are \
the members of the public who will <br>not watch YT out of principle, because of the \
invasion of privacy, the <br>annoying ads, the terrible community, etc.<br><br>The \
way to reach that kind of audience is through platforms like \
PeerTube.<br><br>Conversely, people who follow you on YT are not suddenly going to \
jump to PT <br>just because you post there too. They are on YT because of \
inertia, <br>convenience, they follow more things, they have their own channels, it \
is what <br>they know, etc.<br><br>The idea that just because you post to PeerTube, \
you are suddenly going to <br>lose views on YT is not based on reality and not based \
on evidence either, <br>mainly because there is none.<br><br>I can say that posting \
to PeerTube is probably a smart PR move if you want to <br>ingratiate yourself with \
Free Software community members. Other communities <br>don't care and will be fine \
with YT, but posting to PT shows awareness for the <br>principles of many users and \
developers. It is a bit like adding vegan options <br>to food served at an office \
party, or respecting other people's pronouns.<br><br>You already have a KDAB Mastodon \
account, the next step is to have a PT <br>account and link both. (By the way, your \
KDAB Mastodon account is not verified. <br>You should look into that).<br><br>As \
mentioned some time ago, I can set you up with a channel on the KDE-and-<br>friends \
instance at https://tube.kockatoo.org . I can make it look similar to <br>what \
you have on YT and make it so it virtually manages itself, as anything <br>you post \
to YT will automatically be replicated on PT without human <br>intervention.<br><br>I \
can then hand you the keys and you do your thing and see insights on each <br>video \
if you need it. Insights are not as comprehensive as on YT, but are <br>probably \
enough for most needs (see attached \
screenshot).<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br><br><br><blockquote \
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 22 Mar 2024, at 19:58, Paul Brown \
<paul.brown@kde.org> wrote:<br><br>Our original idea was to be able to give you \
coverage on YT _AND_<br>PeerTube,<br>adding coverage, not subtracting from it. Since \
it is highly unlikely that<br>YouTube viewers will go out of the way to go to \
PeerTube to watch your<br>videos we were not expecting this to affect negatively your \
viewing<br>numbers -- and indeed it wouldn't \
have.<br></blockquote><br>----<br><br>Frances Tait | frances.tait@kdab.com | \
Marketing and Partner relations<br>Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group \
company<br>Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA +1-866-777-KDAB(5322)<br>KDAB - \
Trusted Software Excellence<br></blockquote><br><br>-- <br>Promotion & \
Communication<br><br>www: https://kde.org<br>Mastodon: \
https://floss.social/@kde<br>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kde/<br>Twitter: \
https://twitter.com/kdecommunity<br>LinkedIn: \
https://www.linkedin.com/company/kde<span \
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