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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Plasma 5
From:       Albert Astals Cid <aacid () kde ! org>
Date:       2014-05-10 13:36:28
Message-ID: 2050493.7gKSypqx4k () xps
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El Divendres, 9 de maig de 2014, a les 23:35:23, Martin Klapetek va escriure:
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> wrote:
> > That's because they are all called 4.x and why we should stop calling our
> > 3
> > future releases all 5.x ;-)
> 
> You missed the point :) 

You missed the point :) 

> Majority of users will still perceive the desktop
> environment served by distros as one whole, they will not know and most
> probably not care that it's three completely separate things; to them it
> will all be one whole suite. All part of "the desktop".

And that's why my father thinks he's running "Linux" or at most "KUbuntu", 
people knowing which specific desktop they are running are geeks/power users. 

And geeks/power users usually read the news for stuff they use, and once we 
start announcing three different things won't be able to call if "KDE 5" if we 
make sure 5 is not the common denominator of the naming of them.

> 
> That's what people are used to from everywhere else btw - GNOME (shell +
> apps + gtk), LXDE/LXQt (whole shell + apps), XFCE (shell + apps), OS X
> (shell + apps + cocoa), Windows (shell + apps), Android (basic system +
> basic apps + Google system), iOS etc etc. What I'm trying to say,
> everything around us, that is similar to what we produce, has one unified
> name that encompasses the shell, basic apps and sometimes the toolkit too.
> 
> People /will/ look for one single word/name to call whatever distros show
> up after booting. I don't believe anyone would say "hey dudes, so I'm
> running Plasma 5, KDE Applications 4.17 and Frameworks 5". It's awkward,
> long, tongue-tieing etc. It's just simpler for people to say one single
> word which everyone will understand, be it "Plasma" or "KDE". One word to
> rule them all.

Sure, they may end up saying they are running Plasma XY, but that is correct, 
they are running Plasma XY with some apps, that may be or not from KDE 
Applications release.

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Cheers


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