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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] KDE-Promo Repository
From:       Jos Poortvliet <jos () opensuse ! org>
Date:       2012-07-20 18:58:08
Message-ID: 2061726.hW7zpBRzer () linux-6upc
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On Wednesday 16 May 2012 03:07:29 Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> Bumping again...... A bit of googling took me to
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29292/version-control-for-graphics
> which has some ideas. More where that came from if you google
> 
> version control system art
> 
> Has anybody reached out to Gnome or any of the other desktop or distro
> teams for their ideas?

I believe Fedora has a reasonable workflow for art but I haven't had time to 
have a good look at it. Bruno, on CC, does openSUSE art. Eugene, too, btw. 
Maybe they are interested - this might be something to discuss at a conf, 
yes...

> Valorie
> 
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
> > On Friday 16 March 2012 12:46:22 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
> >> On 03/14/2012 01:12 PM, Stuart Jarvis wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday 13 March 2012 18:09:13 Claudia Rauch wrote:
> >> >> On 13 March 2012 18:01, James Cain<james.cain.25@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> >>> I'm bumping this just for the sake of it staying alive. I would
> >> >>> like to
> >> >>> see
> >> >>> at least see something done. Ideally, maybe a full-blown Promo
> >> >>> website.
> >> >>> Canonical has several resources around, including
> >> >>> this:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> I like because it's a one-stop shop for all things Promo.
> >> >> 
> >> >> There ishttp://community.kde.org/Promo  which is arguably a bit
> >> >> hidden, and it needs some people to regularly update the pages and
> >> >> sources. It is a start, nonetheless.
> >> > 
> >> > Yes, we could do a lot more with this than we do at the moment.
> >> > 
> >> >> Ideas on how to make this more useful are always good :)
> >> > 
> >> > The ideas floating around about using SVN/git are interesting. I
> >> > wouldn't
> >> > want to force a new contributor to have to learn those first, but
> >> > accessing stuff from either via a web interface is easy and those who
> >> > are
> >> > comfortable with it could handle uploading stuff.
> >> > 
> >> > If we go down that route, I'd still like the wiki to be some kind of
> >> > front-
> >> > end, with links to the relevant resources (or at least areas) in the
> >> > cvs.
> >> > 
> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> <annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr>  wrote:
> >> >>>> Will there be a Promo sprint this year?
> >> > 
> >> > It would be good to have a small focussed sprint to concentrate on
> >> > this
> >> > one
> >> > issue (sprints, including the last promo sprint, can suffer from
> >> > trying to do too many things at once).
> >> > 
> >> > I wouldn't have time to organise such a thing until this Autumn at
> >> > least
> >> > and to be honest I'd rather someone else took care of it since I did
> >> > it
> >> > last time - and it should be in a different venue, I think. We could
> >> > also
> >> > consider a virtual sprint where we all get together some weekend and
> >> > work
> >> > on this, but it can be harder to put the time aside when you're not
> >> > physically away somewhere.
> >> > 
> >> > So perhaps we can ask:
> >> > - Who would be potentially interested in working at such a focussed
> >> > sprint - Where do you live (to give some idea of venues)
> >> > - Who could organise such a thing? You need:
> >> > -- to find a (free) venue
> >> > -- find cheap accommodation
> >> > -- harass people to tell you whether they will attend and their costs
> >> > -- propose it to the board
> >> > -- (ideally) give the attendees some guidance on how to get to the
> >> > location
> >> > 
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Stu
> >> 
> >> I don't have time to organize anything unfortunately. There will be a
> >> KDE meeting in Randa (Switzerland) in September and this location can
> >> accommodate several groups. Maybe that would be an option. It needs
> >> someone in contact with Mario Fux and KDE eV to set it up but
> >> accommodation and food would be provided.
> >> 
> >> The wiki does not fulfill any real life needs: there are no new slides
> >> and templates to use in talks on http://www.kde.org/kdeslides/, the
> >> artwork in not usable as it's too focused and lacks sources. The open
> >> content is old and not so open (I see .doc files...) The link to Wade
> >> Picasa posters leads to Wade personal pictures.
> >> git and svn are not difficult to use as they have a web interface. We
> >> will never have any interesting and up-to-date material if we do not
> >> have a repository. I also mentioned in another mail that the French
> >> people wanted to translate the KDE booklet and start some scripts for
> >> demo machines. They had an interest in promoting KDE but this interest
> >> was cut flat because there is nothing to start from.
> >> 
> >> The wiki should explain where to find things but those things can only
> >> exist from sources in a repository. If we have no sources we can't do
> >> promo world wide.
> > 
> > Stu mentioned two issues:
> > 1 finding the stuff
> > 2 uploading the stuff
> > 
> > The wiki is doable for 1 (needs maintenance) but sucks for 2. Git is
> > Ok-ish for 2 (not easy to use for artists/newbies, however!) but sucks
> > for 1.
> > 
> > In openSUSE we have this exact same problem. What would be needed is a
> > web interface to Git (or another scm) which has easy options to look
> > for artwork, see current and old versions and upload newer versions. We
> > currently use github as it offers some of these options but it is far
> > from perfect.
> > 
> > Some openSUSE people are interested in helping to solve this issue but
> > nobody ever really sat down, wrote down requirements and worked on a
> > solution.
> > 
> > IF wee get to that point where we have people able and willing to work
> > on this during a sprint, I would suggest to reach out to others. At
> > least, openSUSE would be interested in joining, helping with code and
> > sponsoring. Kubuntu might need this, but so does (I'd recon) GNOME.
> > Heck, artwork/promo materials are an issue for ALL free software
> > projects except those with significant financial resources...
> > 
> > An effort to build any solution which might be deployed for multiple
> > projects would get all support I can muster up.
> > 
> >> Best regards,
> >> 
> >> Anne-Marie
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