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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] KDE-Promo Repository
From:       Mario Fux <kde-ml () unormal ! org>
Date:       2012-05-20 13:21:49
Message-ID: 201205201521.49416.kde-ml () unormal ! org
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Am Mittwoch 16 Mai 2012, 12.07:29 schrieb Valorie Zimmerman:

Morning too

And just to repeat or underline what Anne-Marie wrote some weeks ago. We are 
currently planning for the date of the Randa Meetings 2012:
http://doodle.com/svghf38ibdg6k9dv

So if you find people to work (KDE, Gnome and Co) and need a place to meet, 
talk, work and be inspired you're very welcome in Randa!

griits
Mario

> Bumping again...... A bit of googling took me to
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29292/version-control-for-graphics
> which has some ideas. More where that came from if you google
> 
> version control system art
> 
> Has anybody reached out to Gnome or any of the other desktop or distro
> teams for their ideas?
> 
> Valorie
> 
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
> > On Friday 16 March 2012 12:46:22 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
> > > On 03/14/2012 01:12 PM, Stuart Jarvis wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 13 March 2012 18:09:13 Claudia Rauch wrote:
> > > > > On 13 March 2012 18:01, James Cain<james.cain.25@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > > > > > I'm bumping this just for the sake of it staying alive. I would like
> > > > > > to see
> > > > > > at least see something done. Ideally, maybe a full-blown Promo
> > > > > > website. Canonical has several resources around, including
> > > > > > this:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I like because it's a one-stop shop for all things Promo.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There ishttp://community.kde.org/Promo  which is arguably a bit
> > > > > hidden, and it needs some people to regularly update the pages and
> > > > > sources. It is a start, nonetheless.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, we could do a lot more with this than we do at the moment.
> > > > 
> > > > > Ideas on how to make this more useful are always good :)
> > > > 
> > > > The ideas floating around about using SVN/git are interesting. I
> > > > wouldn't want to force a new contributor to have to learn those
> > > > first, but accessing stuff from either via a web interface is easy
> > > > and those who are comfortable with it could handle uploading stuff.
> > > > 
> > > > If we go down that route, I'd still like the wiki to be some kind of
> > > > front-
> > > > end, with links to the relevant resources (or at least areas) in the
> > > > cvs.
> > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > <annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr>  wrote:
> > > > > > > Will there be a Promo sprint this year?
> > > > 
> > > > It would be good to have a small focussed sprint to concentrate on
> > > > this one
> > > > issue (sprints, including the last promo sprint, can suffer from
> > > > trying to do too many things at once).
> > > > 
> > > > I wouldn't have time to organise such a thing until this Autumn at
> > > > least and to be honest I'd rather someone else took care of it since
> > > > I did it last time - and it should be in a different venue, I think.
> > > > We could also consider a virtual sprint where we all get together
> > > > some weekend and work on this, but it can be harder to put the time
> > > > aside when you're not physically away somewhere.
> > > > 
> > > > So perhaps we can ask:
> > > > - Who would be potentially interested in working at such a focussed
> > > > sprint - Where do you live (to give some idea of venues)
> > > > - Who could organise such a thing? You need:
> > > > -- to find a (free) venue
> > > > -- find cheap accommodation
> > > > -- harass people to tell you whether they will attend and their costs
> > > > -- propose it to the board
> > > > -- (ideally) give the attendees some guidance on how to get to the
> > > > location
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Stu
> > > 
> > > I don't have time to organize anything unfortunately. There will be a
> > > KDE meeting in Randa (Switzerland) in September and this location can
> > > accommodate several groups. Maybe that would be an option. It needs
> > > someone in contact with Mario Fux and KDE eV to set it up but
> > > accommodation and food would be provided.
> > > 
> > > The wiki does not fulfill any real life needs: there are no new slides
> > > and templates to use in talks on http://www.kde.org/kdeslides/, the
> > > artwork in not usable as it's too focused and lacks sources. The open
> > > content is old and not so open (I see .doc files...) The link to Wade
> > > Picasa posters leads to Wade personal pictures.
> > > git and svn are not difficult to use as they have a web interface. We
> > > will never have any interesting and up-to-date material if we do not
> > > have a repository. I also mentioned in another mail that the French
> > > people wanted to translate the KDE booklet and start some scripts for
> > > demo machines. They had an interest in promoting KDE but this interest
> > > was cut flat because there is nothing to start from.
> > > 
> > > The wiki should explain where to find things but those things can only
> > > exist from sources in a repository. If we have no sources we can't do
> > > promo world wide.
> > 
> > Stu mentioned two issues:
> > 1 finding the stuff
> > 2 uploading the stuff
> > 
> > The wiki is doable for 1 (needs maintenance) but sucks for 2. Git is
> > Ok-ish for 2 (not easy to use for artists/newbies, however!) but sucks
> > for 1.
> > 
> > In openSUSE we have this exact same problem. What would be needed is a
> > web interface to Git (or another scm) which has easy options to look for
> > artwork, see current and old versions and upload newer versions. We
> > currently use github as it offers some of these options but it is far
> > from perfect.
> > 
> > Some openSUSE people are interested in helping to solve this issue but
> > nobody ever really sat down, wrote down requirements and worked on a
> > solution.
> > 
> > IF wee get to that point where we have people able and willing to work on
> > this during a sprint, I would suggest to reach out to others. At least,
> > openSUSE would be interested in joining, helping with code and
> > sponsoring. Kubuntu might need this, but so does (I'd recon) GNOME.
> > Heck, artwork/promo materials are an issue for ALL free software
> > projects except those with significant financial resources...
> > 
> > An effort to build any solution which might be deployed for multiple
> > projects would get all support I can muster up.
> > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > 
> > > Anne-Marie


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