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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] About the Edu-Sprint and Sponsorship in Randa.
From:       Tomaz Canabrava <tcanabrava () kde ! org>
Date:       2012-07-11 12:50:13
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On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Thomas Thym <ungethym@mevin.net> wrote:
> On Monday 09 July 2012, 00.02:23 Aleix Pol wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Thomas Thym <ungethym@mevin.net> wrote:
> > > With extrinsic motivation (you get a carrot if you donte) we are
> > > destroying
> > > intrinsic motivation (to donate to do good or to support a project wich is
> > > important for you).
> > > More options make it more difficult to deside. A couple of weeks (or
> > > perhaps
> > > months) I donated for a project with about 100 possibilities, depending on
> > > 5
> > > or 10 USD stepps (ok, what feeled like 100 was more than 10 or 15 in
> > > reality.)
> > > A had an amount in mind when I entered the site and was so confused by the
> > > options that I left the site to deside. Luckily I came back an donated the
> > > amount I was planing. But am not sure until today if I should write an
> > > e-mail,
> > > that I don't need the carrot.
> > > 
> > > So I would be carefull with offering carrots for donations. But perhaps it
> > > is
> > > only me thinking this way and it is successful by these projekts.
> > > 
> > > But in general it is a good idea to have a donation option.
> > > 
> > > Thomas
> > 
> > I tend to agree. I don't really understand how it works, but I'm sure that
> > as soon as you give something in exchange it becomes more about the
> > exchanged thing instead of the sponsorship itself.
> > 
> > I think that if we want to give something back it should be something that
> > clearly shows it's not an exchange. Like a post card, or so.
> > 
> > Aleix
> 
> Just some background information to the two psychological effects:
> 
> 1. Crowding out motivation (intrinsic motivation is destroyed by extrinsic
> motivation).
> 
> "These negative effects of performance-contingent rewards can best be
> illustrated by an field experiment of Gneezy and Rustichini (2000). It
> analyzes the behavior of school children collecting money voluntarily, i.e.
> without monetary compensation (e.g. for cancer research or disabled children).
> The children reduced their efforts by about 36 percent when they were promised
> a bonus of one percent of the money collected. Their effort to collect for a
> good cause could be raised when the bonus was increased from one to 10 percent
> of the money collected. But they did not reach the initial collection level
> [without bonus] again. This field experiment shows clearly that there are two
> countervailing forces affecting behavior: a crowding-out effect of rewards and
> an effect of motivating the children extrinsically after the intrinsic
> motivation has been decreased."
> 
> http://wiki.informatik.unibw-
> muenchen.de/confluence/display/interactcomm/Crowding-
> Out+of+Intrinsic+Motivation
> 
> 2. The paradox of choise (more choise leads to better desicions but makes you
> unhappy).
> More possibilities makes it harder to deside and afterwards you are unhappy
> because you are unsure that you really mode the perfect desicion.
> 
> There is a brillant TED talk by Barry Schwartz on the paradox of choice
> http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice.html
> 
> esp. from Minute 07:45
> 
> Thomas
> 
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well... ._.

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