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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] KDE-Promo Repository
From:       Jos Poortvliet <jos () opensuse ! org>
Date:       2012-04-14 10:40:02
Message-ID: 1486770.rUh7ImjYlc () jostibak
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On Friday 16 March 2012 12:46:22 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
> On 03/14/2012 01:12 PM, Stuart Jarvis wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 March 2012 18:09:13 Claudia Rauch wrote:
> > > On 13 March 2012 18:01, James Cain<james.cain.25@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > > > I'm bumping this just for the sake of it staying alive. I would like to
> > > > see
> > > > at least see something done. Ideally, maybe a full-blown Promo website.
> > > > Canonical has several resources around, including
> > > > this:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects
> > > > 
> > > > I like because it's a one-stop shop for all things Promo.
> > > 
> > > There ishttp://community.kde.org/Promo  which is arguably a bit
> > > hidden, and it needs some people to regularly update the pages and
> > > sources. It is a start, nonetheless.
> > 
> > Yes, we could do a lot more with this than we do at the moment.
> > 
> > > Ideas on how to make this more useful are always good :)
> > 
> > The ideas floating around about using SVN/git are interesting. I wouldn't
> > want to force a new contributor to have to learn those first, but
> > accessing stuff from either via a web interface is easy and those who are
> > comfortable with it could handle uploading stuff.
> > 
> > If we go down that route, I'd still like the wiki to be some kind of
> > front-
> > end, with links to the relevant resources (or at least areas) in the cvs.
> > 
> > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Anne-Marie Mahfouf
> > > > 
> > > > <annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr>  wrote:
> > > > > Will there be a Promo sprint this year?
> > 
> > It would be good to have a small focussed sprint to concentrate on this
> > one
> > issue (sprints, including the last promo sprint, can suffer from trying to
> > do too many things at once).
> > 
> > I wouldn't have time to organise such a thing until this Autumn at least
> > and to be honest I'd rather someone else took care of it since I did it
> > last time - and it should be in a different venue, I think. We could also
> > consider a virtual sprint where we all get together some weekend and work
> > on this, but it can be harder to put the time aside when you're not
> > physically away somewhere.
> > 
> > So perhaps we can ask:
> > - Who would be potentially interested in working at such a focussed sprint
> > - Where do you live (to give some idea of venues)
> > - Who could organise such a thing? You need:
> > -- to find a (free) venue
> > -- find cheap accommodation
> > -- harass people to tell you whether they will attend and their costs
> > -- propose it to the board
> > -- (ideally) give the attendees some guidance on how to get to the
> > location
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Stu
> 
> I don't have time to organize anything unfortunately. There will be a
> KDE meeting in Randa (Switzerland) in September and this location can
> accommodate several groups. Maybe that would be an option. It needs
> someone in contact with Mario Fux and KDE eV to set it up but
> accommodation and food would be provided.
> 
> The wiki does not fulfill any real life needs: there are no new slides
> and templates to use in talks on http://www.kde.org/kdeslides/, the
> artwork in not usable as it's too focused and lacks sources. The open
> content is old and not so open (I see .doc files...) The link to Wade
> Picasa posters leads to Wade personal pictures.
> git and svn are not difficult to use as they have a web interface. We
> will never have any interesting and up-to-date material if we do not
> have a repository. I also mentioned in another mail that the French
> people wanted to translate the KDE booklet and start some scripts for
> demo machines. They had an interest in promoting KDE but this interest
> was cut flat because there is nothing to start from.
> 
> The wiki should explain where to find things but those things can only
> exist from sources in a repository. If we have no sources we can't do
> promo world wide.

Stu mentioned two issues:
1 finding the stuff
2 uploading the stuff

The wiki is doable for 1 (needs maintenance) but sucks for 2. Git is Ok-ish 
for 2 (not easy to use for artists/newbies, however!) but sucks for 1.

In openSUSE we have this exact same problem. What would be needed is a web 
interface to Git (or another scm) which has easy options to look for artwork, 
see current and old versions and upload newer versions. We currently use 
github as it offers some of these options but it is far from perfect.

Some openSUSE people are interested in helping to solve this issue but nobody 
ever really sat down, wrote down requirements and worked on a solution.

IF wee get to that point where we have people able and willing to work on this 
during a sprint, I would suggest to reach out to others. At least, openSUSE 
would be interested in joining, helping with code and sponsoring. Kubuntu 
might need this, but so does (I'd recon) GNOME. Heck, artwork/promo materials 
are an issue for ALL free software projects except those with significant 
financial resources...

An effort to build any solution which might be deployed for multiple projects 
would get all support I can muster up.

> Best regards,
> 
> Anne-Marie

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