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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Listserv cleanup
From:       Matt Rogers <mattr () kde ! org>
Date:       2010-01-05 4:26:57
Message-ID: 201001042227.00769.mattr () kde ! org
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On Saturday 02 January 2010 03:11:22 pm Justin Kirby wrote:
> Matt, thanks for the clarification.  I believe the spreadsheet we compiled
> only lists the moderators' email addresses.  Is it even necessary to
> contact the moderators?  Should we just contact the list admins?  Or
> should we really be pinging them both?
> 

That's up to y'all. :) If it were me, I'd keep both, just for more complete 
coverage of the lists, since some owners may be inactive and the moderator is 
doing all the list owner work, or similar cases.

> This probably won't affect Martin's script that he's working on since it is
> just pulling email addresses from a spreadsheet.  Sounds like we just need
> to figure out what email addresses still need to be added or removed (if
> any) in the spreadsheet.  By the way, how is that script coming along
> Martin? :)
> 

I would replace the list owners with <listname>-owner@kde.org in your 
spreadsheet as that would let mailman do a lot of the work of sending emails 
for you. :)

> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Matt Rogers <mattr@kde.org> wrote:
> > On Friday 01 January 2010 10:51:28 am Justin Kirby wrote:
> > > Ack...maybe I misread that.  Ingo, is there a "mailing list of list
> > > admins"? Or were you just saying we could use one email address for
> > > each list instead of mailing each moderator on every list
> > > individually?
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Justin Kirby <justin@neomantra.org>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > > Wow, I really wish I'd known about that moderator mailing list 6
> > > > months ago
> > > > 
> > > > :)  Thanks Ingo!
> > > > 
> > > > So maybe instead of sending out all these individualized emails we
> > 
> > could
> > 
> > > > just send the following to that mailing list and then take
> > > > appropriate action.  Please let me know if anyone has any feedback
> > > > on this,
> > 
> > otherwise
> > 
> > > > I will go ahead and send it out early next week:
> > > > 
> > > > Dear KDE Listserv Moderator,
> > > > 
> > > > The KDE-Promo team has done a review of all managed listservs and has
> > > > determined that a very large number of them appear to be inactive or
> > 
> > were
> > 
> > > > never even used.  In order to help clean up this situation we will be
> > > > closing all of the following mailing lists unless we hear from a
> > > > moderator that they are still in use:
> > > > 
> > > > << I'll insert the potential inactive mailing lists here>>
> > > > 
> > > > Additionally, if you are a moderator of a mailing list that was not
> > > > listed above but know that it is no longer necessary or would like to
> > > > merge it with some other list please let us know.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > The KDE Promo Team
> > > > 
> > > > 2009/12/30 Ingo Klöcker <kloecker@kde.org>
> > > > 
> > > > On Thursday 24 December 2009, Justin Kirby wrote:
> > > >> > Thanks Martin!  I copied the email text I had in mind below and
> > > >> > the spreadsheet is attached.  I used << >>'s to signify where
> > > >> > info would
> > > >> > 
> > > >> >  need to be pulled in from the spreadsheet.  Also, for some lists
> > > >> >  there are multiple moderators.  We separated their email
> > > >> >  addresses with spaces in that column when there was more than
> > > >> >  one.  Let me know if you have any questions or need
> > > >> >  clarification.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Hint: It would be much easier to use listname-owner@kde.org instead
> > 
> > of
> > 
> > > >> the addresses of all admins/moderators.
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> Ingo
> > 
> > There are list owner addresses that are fowarders to the mailing list
> > administrators. So, for the kopete-devel list, there is a kopete-devel-
> > owner@kde.org email address that forwards to me, since I'm the mailing
> > list
> > admin for that list. For lists with multiple owners, everybody listed as
> > a mailing list owner would get the mail. Note that mailing list owners
> > are separate from list moderators.
> > --
> > Matt

-- 
Matt

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