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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Text for inclusion on release-notes.
From:       Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-12-13 13:57:45
Message-ID: 200912131500.04760.jospoortvliet () gmail ! com
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On Sunday 13 December 2009 13:06:54 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> I'm the currently one developer, and I had the help ( in tips ) from Sandro
> Andrade.
> ( and my name is really Tomaz, with a Z and without an H, not Thomas ;)

Sorry about that, didn't pay much attention...

> The usecases are rather specific.: it's specific for programming classes &
> graph Simulation, as Step is specific for Phisics simulation,
> people without programming skills are unable to use it but to do small
> drawings.

Ok, that's a rather specific usergroup. Means we'll keep it a bit shorter than 
eg the Dolphin text ;-)

> since you don't have 4.4 beta installed, I have some pictures in
> http://edu.kde.org/rocs/pics/rocs-full.png

Yeah, found that on your website already.

> The plotting of the graph cannot create a script ( because the script is
> something to transform that drawned graph to it ),
> but you can create a new graph fully by scripting it and changing it's x, y
> position,
> and also, moving the Graph on screen will reflect that changes on code.
> 
> I hope I answered all questions,
> feel free to ask more.

Ok, clear. I think the text below describes it just fine (as I took it mostly 
from the rocs webpage). I will keep it short as it seems a bit complicated and 
users can read more on the rocs website. And I mentioned your name only as you 
wrote it, right? Unless you say the contributions by Sandro should be 
mentioned.

Current text in the visual guide:
Another new educational game is <a href="http://edu.kde.org/rocs">Rocs</a>, 
developed by Tomaz Canabrava. Rocs aims to be a Graph Theory IDE to help 
teachers demonstrate the the results of a graph algorithm and to help students 
play with it. Rocs has a scripting module that interacts with the drawn graph 
and every change in the graph with the script is reflected on the drawn one. 

> The usecases are really
> 
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Jos Poortvliet 
<jospoortvliet@gmail.com>wrote:
> > On Sunday 13 December 2009 04:08:24 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> > > Ppl, I did a small text for my app, if anybody could revise it it
> > > whould
> >
> > be
> >
> > > awesome since I'm tired and moving away from my home tomorrow, so it
> > > probably has a few glitches.
> > >
> > > ------
> > >
> > > And a new program is included in Kde-Edu, Rocs. but what is and what's
> >
> > not
> >
> > > about this little piece of software?
> > > It's an educational app, this is straigthforward, but for what?
> > > Can be used in quite a few ways actually. It is a Graph Plotter &
> >
> > Scripting
> >
> > > Interface, with that huge name, where can anybody uses that?
> > > well, what about a Class about Algorithms, and the teacher wants to
> > > teach how a 'for' works, and the following algorithm is applied.:
> > > Plot a few nodes on screen, and...
> > >
> > > var colors = new Array("red", "green", "blue", "black");
> > > var Balls = Graph.list_nodes();
> > > for( var i = 0; i < Balls.length; i++){
> > >   Balls[i].color = colors[i];
> > > }
> > >
> > > The result is Graphically changed, since all nodes plotted on the
> > > canvas will now have a different color, it's better than the old
> > > console output visualization method used till today
> > > Now, let's increase the dificulty.: you can do almost all Graph
> >
> > Algorithms
> >
> > > using a small subset of the JavaScript language, plus a few things on a
> > > simple graph API.
> > >
> > > it can be used in Algorithms, Data Structure, Graphs and quite more
> > >  classes. a really userful sci-app.
> >
> > Oh and another thing: did you develop it, and did you get major help from
> > one
> > or more persons? I'd love to mention you and them ;-)
> >
> > (reflected in the text below:
> >
> > Another new educational application is Rocs, a graph plotter & scripting
> > interface developed by Thomas Canabrava. Rocs is meant to help educators
> > demonstrate the basic principles of programming graph algorithms. It
> > works using a small subset of the JavaScript language and has a simple to
> > use graph
> > programming interface. It has a graphical area xxxx )
> 

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