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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] KDE4. www4?
From:       "Riccardo Iaconelli" <riccardo () kde ! org>
Date:       2008-03-19 12:40:16
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On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Milian Wolff <mail@milianw.de> wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 18. März 2008 schrieb Giovanni Venturi:
> > Alle lunedì 17 marzo 2008, Luke Parry ha scritto:
> > > Another possibility is the fear that no-one would to develop something
> > > that may not be used at all, as for instance, a week or two ago, there
> > > was talk about a CMS, but soon talk of which died away. If we don't
> know
> > > what we are developing for, why should we waste time on it...
> >
> > In the nowadays age complex websites has to be managed by CMS. kde.orgis
> > not managed by CMS, but with patches via SVN and if a KDE websites wants
> > help you cannot use SVN because you need to know HTML and PHP (not a big
> > problem nowadays, but not always people want to learn it), or simply you
> > cannot use a sets of PHP pages without a simple way to add things like
> you
> > do in a CMS. Italian websites uses e107 also if it's not perfect, but it
> > has the features Italian team needs. We used Joomla for a year but it
> > didn't feet exactly our needs. Also e107 has some limits too but some
> > things are done better than Joomla... Anyway a CMS is needed. The
> problem
> > is that to switch from a CMS to another you have to reinsert all
> articles
> > and news bacause the databases are not compatible and you have not an
> > import/export function.
>
> I propose Drupal since it is very extensible and many of its modules can
> come
> in handy on any kde.org site. Plus its very actively developed, has a
> great
> community and can easily cope with large sites.
>
> As an additional plus Drupal can serve multiple websites from one shared
> codebase. So security updates only have to be applied once for all kde.org
> sites.
>
> Aside from the question which CMS to use I'd be willing to help you with
> the
> data migration.
>
> --
> Milian Wolff
> http://milianw.de
> OpenPGP key: CD1D1393
>
>
We already have a couple of homemade CMS solutions (pantheon, ksite) and I'm
putting some thoughts in a new design.
Eugene and Emil of kdegames fame are working on this too.
I'll share with you mocks and so on as I can.

-Riccardo
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On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Milian Wolff &lt;<a \
href="mailto:mail@milianw.de">mail@milianw.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid \
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Am Dienstag, 18. \
März 2008 schrieb Giovanni Venturi:<br> <div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; Alle lunedì 17 \
marzo 2008, Luke Parry ha scritto:<br> &gt; &gt; Another possibility is the fear that \
no-one would to develop something<br> &gt; &gt; that may not be used at all, as for \
instance, a week or two ago, there<br> &gt; &gt; was talk about a CMS, but soon talk \
of which died away. If we don&#39;t know<br> &gt; &gt; what we are developing for, \
why should we waste time on it...<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; In the nowadays age complex websites has to be managed by CMS. <a \
href="http://kde.org" target="_blank">kde.org</a> is<br> &gt; not managed by CMS, but \
with patches via SVN and if a KDE websites wants<br> &gt; help you cannot use SVN \
because you need to know HTML and PHP (not a big<br> &gt; problem nowadays, but not \
always people want to learn it), or simply you<br> &gt; cannot use a sets of PHP \
pages without a simple way to add things like you<br> &gt; do in a CMS. Italian \
websites uses e107 also if it&#39;s not perfect, but it<br> &gt; has the features \
Italian team needs. We used Joomla for a year but it<br> &gt; didn&#39;t feet exactly \
our needs. Also e107 has some limits too but some<br> &gt; things are done better \
than Joomla... Anyway a CMS is needed. The problem<br> &gt; is that to switch from a \
CMS to another you have to reinsert all articles<br> &gt; and news bacause the \
databases are not compatible and you have not an<br> &gt; import/export function.<br>
<br>
</div>I propose Drupal since it is very extensible and many of its modules can \
come<br> in handy on any <a href="http://kde.org" target="_blank">kde.org</a> site. \
Plus its very actively developed, has a great<br> community and can easily cope with \
large sites.<br> <br>
As an additional plus Drupal can serve multiple websites from one shared<br>
codebase. So security updates only have to be applied once for all <a \
href="http://kde.org" target="_blank">kde.org</a><br> sites.<br>
<br>
Aside from the question which CMS to use I&#39;d be willing to help you with the<br>
data migration.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
--<br>
Milian Wolff<br>
<a href="http://milianw.de" target="_blank">http://milianw.de</a><br>
OpenPGP key: CD1D1393<br>
</font><br></blockquote></div><br>We already have a couple of homemade CMS solutions \
(pantheon, ksite) and I&#39;m putting some thoughts in a new design.<br>Eugene and \
Emil of kdegames fame are working on this too.<br clear="all"> I&#39;ll share with \
you mocks and so on as I can.<br><br>-Riccardo<br>-- <br>GPG key:<br>3D0F6376<br>When \
encrypting, please encrypt also for this subkey:<br>9EBD7FE1<br>-----<br>Pace Peace \
Paix Paz Frieden Pax Pokój Friður Fred Béke 和平<br> Hasiti Lapé Hetep Malu \
Mир Wolakota Santiphap Irini Peoch שלום<br>Shanti Vrede Baris Rój Mír Taika \
Rongo Sulh Mir Py&#39;guapy 평화



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