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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Tasks for SpreadKDE
From:       "C.M.Lotion" <clairelotion () kde ! nl>
Date:       2007-03-15 10:25:03
Message-ID: 200703151125.11201.clairelotion () kde ! nl
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On di maart 13 2007, Tom Chance wrote:
> Ahoy,
>
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:35:17 -0400, Pier-Olivier Thibault 
<ximaginex@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday 12 March 2007 02:56, Tom Chance wrote:
> >> I can't see any tasks - it would be good if anonymous visitors could
> >> see appropriate tasks (e.g. not any confidential marketing stuff, but
> >
> > certainly the titles for release planning though not the full content,
> > and then
> >
> >> everything to do with events).
> >
> > We (me, lparry, nievlsm and maybe claire, not sure) talked about that
> > and we came to a conclusion where for an anonymous visitor, there is
> > no need to show them the projects that we are working on as we are
> > trying to get people involved in a different way than what we usually
> > see on KDE projects.
> >
> > We try to make them curious about SpreadKDE, and make them realize
> > they can help us get better. By showing tasks immediatly, we feel that
> > we are skipping some important steps.
>
> One of the biggest reasons stopping people volunteering is that they
> don't have a clear idea of what they could help with. Providing a clear
> list of tasks, and a means of sharing them amongst existing volunteers
> and new recruits, is one of the most important and basic tasks for group
> facilitators / coordinators, and this carries across to KDE promotional
> work.
>
> To my mind there's no reason *not* to show this information to anonymous
> visitors, so it should definitely be public. Show people what they can
> do!
>
:-) that's sooooo true.

>[...]

> > The one you actually see is the "anonymous" front page.The other one
> > is being
> > worked on. http://dev.spreadkde.org/node/97 is gonna be the "logged
> > in" homepage. any comments are welcome.
>
> Again, I really don't see why you have this distinction. KDE Promo isn't
> a cool people club, we want to be inclusive and open, make people want
> to get involved. 
Hey, wait a second, we _are_ cool and inclusive ;-)

> I think the logged in page, by the looks of it, should 
> be default!
>
I like the idea of giving aspiring promo-members some extra attention, 
while having it based onthe logged in page. We really need to give 
anonymous users some more thought. 
>[...]
>
> >> It will be really nice when the handbook is copied over :-)
> >
> > The handbook is a good thing, but we feel that our handbook is gonna
> > be quite different as the one published on www.spreadkde.org. Also, we
> > want to kick off SpreadKDE as a small project. I have been stressing
> > on keeping it small as I don't want us to be demotived by the amount
> > of work that needs to be done on a marketing scale.
> >
> > Some things are very good about your handbook, but some others will
> > have to be left aside for the time being, as we want to have a
> > constant progress while keeping everything under control. The worst
> > that could happen to SpreadKDE would be the creation of a "bubble"
> > where everyone would rush in to help and we would get lost trying to
> > organize all this mess.
>
> Hang on, who said anything about *losing* existing content? Can you be
> more specific? 
Sounds as if  _we_ need to clean up our act. Moving is a great opportunity 
to get rid of obsolete stuff and putting things at the right location. 
(The KDE MultiMedia Meeting stuff probably rings a bell, Tom ;-) )

> The SpreadKDE you're working on is the home of the KDE 
> promo community, not a new project, and so it needs to carry across
> existing work. Some of the handbook may be a bit old, redundant even, 
> but everyone should be involved in decisions about removing content.
>
Isn't the SKO development team also part of the promo community, as 
in "we"?

> > A roadmap has been created by Luke and I'll update it today or
> > tomorrow depending on how much time I have.
>
> That sounds good, it's important for everyone to agree with your vision
> of where you're taking SpreadKDE. 
Actually, _we_ are taking SpreadKDE somewhere. We all need to consider what 
this is supposed to be. I'll write a seperate e-mail about this to the 
list.

Regards,
Claire

-- 
Claire Lotion

KDE Marketing Team
http://www.spreadkde.org

KDE Nederland
http://www.kde.nl

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