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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Address database for press contacts
From:       Scott Wheeler <wheeler () kde ! org>
Date:       2003-04-22 12:59:57
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Thanks Philippe -- you said what I was thinking better than I could have. 
 
(Technical note: the promo module of KDE CVS is already not mirrored to the 
anonymous CVS servers -- in other words it's available for everyone with a KDE 
CVS account, but not the whole world.  This would probably be a nice 
compromise on the privacy thing.) 
 
Cheers, 
 
-Scott 
 
Quoting Philippe Fremy <phil@freehackers.org>: 
 
> 
> > But we do need a proper system to punch contact info into and 
> > evaluating between a relational database or a directory seems a valid 
> > consideration in such a matter. 
> 
> I think a text file in a CVS repository where KDE members have access can do 
> 
> the job prefectely. If it really gets too big, we can move to a kword or  
> kspread document. People really underestimate the power of simple  
> technology. What can LDAP brings you that you need and that text file + CVS  
> won't provide ? 
> 
> I would prefer people to spend their time on something actually useful for  
> kde promotion. 
> 
> > That's also what test servers are for, but once there's a bare bones 
> > system in place that works we should start filling it. Those who can 
> > improve it in areas that the KDE promo effort actually needs are welcome 
> > to do so, but the priority should be filling it with useful data.  
> 
> You really sound like we have thousands of records here. Let just see how  
> the text file solution scales and then see if we need something more  
> advanced. I don't think KDE promotion needs an oracle database. 
> 
> > Writing content is something I do much better than writing code, so I'll 
> > stick to that. I have this very handy set of books here called "Handboek 
> > van de Pers", containing addresses of practically all (thousands) 
> > serious printed media in the Netherlands. It's all on paper, but once a 
> > database for KDE-promo exists I'll fill it with any relevant addresses 
> > from these books. That'll probably take quite a lot of time for a single 
> > person but it's feasible and provides a gradual path to see if the 
> > system scales properly and functions as intended. 
> 
> Instead of filling the database with random names, how about getting in  
> contact with the people from KDE / Netherland and try to write / phone  
> directly to those press contact. You can filll the textfile database as you  
> write to them. 
> 
> Instead of spending time copying a book into a database, you can actually  
> help directly KDE. 
> 
> For you info, I have been running a comany for two years with 4 people and  
> we had plenty of html files for managing our press and commercial contacts.  
> It worked out very well. 
> 
> > If it keeps working properly after some time we can start attracting 
> > people from other countries to fill their parts of the system and maybe 
> > attract some funding for colocation of the box..  
> 
> blah blah blah. 
> 
> Right now, KDE promotion has the problem that almost nobody does something  
> really useful. Before "attracting people from other countries by filling a  
> database", you could just get in contact with those journalists, and if it  
> is successful. Then write here on how you got KDE pushed in the press. That  
> will get people from other countries join. 
> 
> But there is no point in filling a database and pretending that it will help 
> 
> KDE promotion and that people willing to join have to fill a database. 
> 
> 	regards, 
> 
> 	Philippe 
> 
> 
> --  
> You should not reinvent the wheel.  
> Except when the first inventor made it square! 
> 
> 
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