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Subject: Re: [kde-promo] (fwd) NX Project Announcement
From: "Kurt Pfeifle" <kpfeifle () danka ! de>
Date: 2003-03-31 10:52:50
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Martin Konold wrote:
Unusual times are dawning -- this must be about the longest email by you,
Martin, that I have ever read" ;-)
> Am Samstag, 29. M?rz 2003 01:51 schrieb Kurt Pfeifle:
>
> Hi Dirk,
> Hi Kurt,
>
>
> > Dirk Mueller wrote on kde-promo:
>
>
> > > might be interesting.
> >
> > Definitely it *IS* interesting
>
>
> I very much agree with Kurt here. After the NX stuff was announced on the
> xfree forum ml I gave it a try. These guys really make it right! They
> definetly know what they are doing. Especially I checked their low latency
> stuff and the persistent file based cache.
>
>
> > I am testdriving NX since a few days and this is by *far* the fastest
> > "remote destop-ing" system I have ever seen. The performance across
> > an internet link is really astonishing. It is better than what I have
> > even on my LAN (or via a crosslink cable between desktop and laptop)
> > using krdc/krfb!
>
>
> Kurt: You are comparing apples and oranges.
Both are fruit.
> Instead of comparing NX with vnc
> you should compare it to pure X11.
I've done that too (but forgot to mention) and NX is far faster than pure X.
> X11 already knows about all the remote
> desktop features of NX. NX basically modifies X11 in a way LBX always tried
> but never succeeded.
>
> Still NX is an extreme improvement to XFree86.
>
>
> > [Be
> > warned: you will be encountering a semi-broken RedHat desktop there -- but
> > I think Gian Filippos offer to help develop an Open Source version of NX is
> > worth while exploring.]
> >
> > A KDE version of NX could be a reall killer application for its usage
> > on the desktop in large offices and organizations.
>
>
> The NX Client already works nicely with KDE.
Yes -- but NX is planned to be a *sold*, commercial product. (Dunno about
the pure *client*, but at least the part called "NX server" is.
OTOH, NoMachine have publically offered to support the development of a free
(as in beer, and as in freedom) KDE (and GNOME) version of a GUI frontend.
The core NX libraries are already GPL (and may be used on the commandline
to do what NX frontends do in a more intuitive way.
> Actually when playing an mp3
> remotely the client already proxies the audio stream to my local artsd.
Ah -- you even got that to work for you. I didn't succeed.
> Even
> klipper works as expected. Of course native KDE config dialogs etc. would be
> nice. Maybe even some D&D could lead to interesting usage patterns.
>
>
> > NX seems to be able provide (clustered) application servers, which can
> > serve and satisfy hundreds or even thousands of client machines. It will
> > open the door to a new kind of "network computing" for many users.
>
>
> X11 was able to do this for many years!
No. Not really. Only in theory. Since performance sucked, no-one really did
it set up as the standard way to do enterprise-wide computing. With the NX
technology, I think it could become a real option.
> So in order not to repeat myself to
> often:
>
> - The main thing NX does is on one hand a much more efficient version of the
> X11 protocol and on the other hand providing a lean and free (as in beer)
> client for many operating systems incl. Unix/Linux, Windows, Opie,
> Symbian....
>
> IMHO the main feature with regards to kde-promo and NX is that NX finally
> makes thin client / fat server computing a REAL alternativ. Sofar ICA was 20
> times better than the bloated X11 protocoll.
>
> Regards,
> -- martin
> P.S.: My NX testdrive was my first real usage of the RH KDE setup. Oh my god
> it is really _extremly_ broken :-((
I warned you...
But it shouldn't stop everyone to testdrive NX. "The proof for the pudding
lies in the eating":
http://www.nomachine.com/testdrive.php
> Dipl.-Phys. Martin Konold
>
Cheers,
Kurt
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