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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Re: gnome look option in kpersonalizer
From:       "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo () olympusproject ! org>
Date:       2002-11-20 9:09:17
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On Wednesday 20 November 2002 01:40, Philippe FREMY wrote:
> I would like to be sure I get this straight:
> 
> - Red Hat made a theme for Gnome and one for KDE that both looks the same

yes, along with themes for open office and mozilla

> - The name of the double theme is BlueCurve

yes

> - The KDE theme is released under the GPL, which is necessary because it
> links to Qt.

yes

> - RedHat trademarked the word BlueCurve

yes

> - some people are using/modifying/improving the theme with the name
> FreeCurve to avoid trademark conflict

those "some people" are Red Hat employees. so it isn't someone just being 
careful, it's their own people following the corporate line. i also have an 
email from Havoc to a gnome mailing list stating the reason for the name 
change was because Red Hat had a trademark on the name and therefore couldn't

> The FSF said it is a violation of the GPL to prevent someone from
> reditributing GPL code by using a trademark violation.

yes. i can provde the email verbatim if you wish ...

> The question that remains:
> - is the Red Hat distro with this theme out ? I remember something about
> the beta, but I don't remember if the release has happened.

yes, Red Hat 8.0 is on retail shelves in boxes and available on FTP mirrors 
the world over.

> - has RedHat tried to enforce its trademark, threaten to sue projects that
> would reuse their code ?

only warnings not to from the likes of Havoc Pennington coupled with the 
actions of Red Hat employees to re-release the BlueCurve theme under a 
different name to avoid the trademark issue and "allow" redistribution.

> If you confirm the points, I'll forward this to my contact at Trolltech.

please do so, as i really don't have any myself.

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Aaron J. Seigo
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