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List:       kde-pim
Subject:    Re: [Kde-pim] State of the community and websites
From:       Adriaan de Groot <groot () kde ! org>
Date:       2006-10-01 23:07:50
Message-ID: 200610020107.50578.groot () kde ! org
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On Sunday 01 October 2006 01:21, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
> On Sunday 01 October 2006 00:01, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> > 1) Do we really want to keep the "special" blue look? The revised look
> > would have (soon, once the artists create one) a PIM or Kontact logo in
> > the upper-right -- see the aKademy site vs. www.kde.org for instance.
>
> I have no real objections against moving pim.kde.org to the new look. It
> still would be nice to make it distinguishable from other sites, so that
> people know where they are. Nuances of logo usage are hardly adequate for
> this.

I've done most of this now. It no longer uses our forked menu code in most 
places. I have tightened up the organization somewhat as well. Please inform 
of any broken links or weirdness -- or better yet, fix it (since everyone in 
the "PIM team" has commit privileges on the site).

> > 2) Do we really need the site at all? The point of pim.kde.org was to
> > contain developer information for PIM and express some of the developer
>
> developer.kde.org is already pretty impossible to navigate. Adding KDE PIM
> stuff there doesn't really help. 

Danimo is working on fixing some of the issues with d.k.o along with Dominik 
Haumann. It needs better navigation, sure, but a lot of stuff from PIM 
could - should - be in there.

> I also still think that the community 
> aspect should be separated from the product presentation.

Er .. developer community from applications, you mean? But we did that ages 
ago -- there should be no "about the apps" stuff left (surfable) on 
pim.kde.org. We have kontact.kde.org for that.


> > 3) Do we have any plan to get the user website kontact.kde.org up and
>
> We should get it up and running. If there are user who would want to help,
> great.

I'll take it to kdepim-users. Basically, with the developer base as small as 
it is now we can't really afford to put time into the websites, but we can't 
afford to have broken and stupid sites either (not that kontact.k.o is 
either, but it's also phenomenally non-helpful).

-- 
These are your friends - Adem
    GPG: FEA2 A3FE Adriaan de Groot

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